Joe we must have the same source. . Originally Posted by LovingKaylaGlenn Beck is the source of your cancer. You keep spreading that shit and it will be the death of the GOP. Though that maybe what you want, watch what you wish for. The Dem's need a strong GOP to keep them in check. You Tea Nuts are killing them. You have probably lost the Senate for them again for a second election cycle.
- WTF
- 10-29-2012, 09:12 AM
- joe bloe
- 10-29-2012, 09:21 AM
Joe we must have the same source. It's too bad all we have here are the ubber left. I love talking to blue dogs. They are some of the nicest most wonderful people. If it weren't for people like Obama or soros or all the Muslim groups that support them or are linked to them, I'd probably vote democrat more often. Oh well. God gold and guns works too. Originally Posted by LovingKaylaThere are not many Blue Dogs left in the Democrat Party. Almost all the John Kennedy Democrats are Republicans now. The modern day Democrat Party is really the Socialist/Democrat Party. Majority rule, without a constitution, always morphs into socialism. The modern day Democrats have abandoned the constitution.
- Whirlaway
- 10-29-2012, 09:23 AM
The Tea Party is what brought political life back into the GOP............record voter turnout in 2010, record number of conservative Republicans elected, threw the Dems out of leadership in the House and Super majority in the Senate.
You do not know what you are talking about WTF.
It was the TP that saved Walker in Wisconsin most recently.
And, the Wednesday Chik-Fil-A event in which hundreds of thousand turned out nationally was an anti-Obama TP demonstration most recently. The same people who will turn out to throw Obama out in Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire, and other swing states.
You do not know what you are talking about WTF.
It was the TP that saved Walker in Wisconsin most recently.
And, the Wednesday Chik-Fil-A event in which hundreds of thousand turned out nationally was an anti-Obama TP demonstration most recently. The same people who will turn out to throw Obama out in Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire, and other swing states.
- Whirlaway
- 10-29-2012, 09:27 AM
@ WTF...here is the Tea Party wins by the numbers.........
Including gains in odd-year elections in four states, special election wins, and over a dozen Democratic state legislators who have switched their party affiliation in the past several weeks, Republicans netted 721 seats in the 2010 election cycle (since January of 2009). Republicans now control almost exactly 54 percent of the nation’s 7382 legislative seats that are partisan, excluding Nebraska’s nonpartisan, unicameral legislature.
What really matters, though, is getting enough seats to claim the majority in a particular legislative body. In the nation’s 98 partisan state legislative chambers, Republicans almost completely reversed their standing. Headed into the election, Democrats had a 60-36 advantage with two chambers, the Alaska Senate and Montana House, tied. When most legislatures convene new sessions in early January, Republicans will control 57 chambers, Democrats 39, and again, two will be tied, the Alaska Senate and the Oregon House.
Republicans now control the entire legislature in 25 states, 11 more than they had going in to the 2010 elections. For their part, Democrats control both houses of 16 legislatures, with eight states facing divided control of the legislature. The last time Republicans controlled this many legislatures was after the 1952 election, when they had 26.
Gains in Every Region......
Republicans gained legislative seats in every region of the country in 2010, led by the Northeast where they picked-up 229 seats. The numbers in the East are somewhat skewed by the New Hampshire House which has 400 members, allowing Republicans to gain 132 seats in the Granite State alone. What was probably most striking at the regional level was the symbolic tipping point that Republicans achieved in the South. For the first time since 1870, there are now more GOP legislators in the South than Democrats, punctuating a decline of Democrats in the region that has been steadily taking place since the late 1950s. Prior to 1994, only 16 years ago, there was not a single legislative chamber in the South with a majority of Republican members. Now, 19 chambers in the South belong to the GOP, including five which switched this year: the House and Senate in Alabama, the Louisiana House, and the House and Senate in North Carolina.
In addition to those five chambers, 17 other chambers saw a party control change, including the Oregon House, which went from a 36-24 Democratic advantage to a 30-30 tie. On average, 13 state legislative chambers change hands in every two-year election cycle. In this cycle, the following 21 chambers all moved to the Republican column:
Alabama House & Senate
Montana House
Colorado House
New Hampshire House & Senate
Indiana House
New York Senate
Iowa House
North Carolina House & Senate
Louisiana House
Ohio House
Maine House & Senate
Pennsylvania House
Michigan House
Wisconsin Assembly & Senate
Minnesota House & Senate
Montana, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, the list goes on and on........
Other chambers where Republicans made notable gains but fell short of winning the majority included the Arkansas House, where they added 17 seats, and the Connecticut House, where they added 15. In the Texas House, Democrats had actually hoped to win enough seats to take control, but wound up losing 24 seats in the body and now hold only 51 of the 150 total Texas House seats. The most Republican legislature is now Wyoming at 84% GOP, jumping over Utah and Idaho. Hawaii leapfrogged Rhode Island to become the most Democratic legislature and is now 87% Democrats.
In short summary, the Tea Party devastated the Democrats in the 2010 elections !
You are a fucking idiot who is full of opinion, no facts, just bloviating.
Including gains in odd-year elections in four states, special election wins, and over a dozen Democratic state legislators who have switched their party affiliation in the past several weeks, Republicans netted 721 seats in the 2010 election cycle (since January of 2009). Republicans now control almost exactly 54 percent of the nation’s 7382 legislative seats that are partisan, excluding Nebraska’s nonpartisan, unicameral legislature.
What really matters, though, is getting enough seats to claim the majority in a particular legislative body. In the nation’s 98 partisan state legislative chambers, Republicans almost completely reversed their standing. Headed into the election, Democrats had a 60-36 advantage with two chambers, the Alaska Senate and Montana House, tied. When most legislatures convene new sessions in early January, Republicans will control 57 chambers, Democrats 39, and again, two will be tied, the Alaska Senate and the Oregon House.
Republicans now control the entire legislature in 25 states, 11 more than they had going in to the 2010 elections. For their part, Democrats control both houses of 16 legislatures, with eight states facing divided control of the legislature. The last time Republicans controlled this many legislatures was after the 1952 election, when they had 26.
Gains in Every Region......
Republicans gained legislative seats in every region of the country in 2010, led by the Northeast where they picked-up 229 seats. The numbers in the East are somewhat skewed by the New Hampshire House which has 400 members, allowing Republicans to gain 132 seats in the Granite State alone. What was probably most striking at the regional level was the symbolic tipping point that Republicans achieved in the South. For the first time since 1870, there are now more GOP legislators in the South than Democrats, punctuating a decline of Democrats in the region that has been steadily taking place since the late 1950s. Prior to 1994, only 16 years ago, there was not a single legislative chamber in the South with a majority of Republican members. Now, 19 chambers in the South belong to the GOP, including five which switched this year: the House and Senate in Alabama, the Louisiana House, and the House and Senate in North Carolina.
In addition to those five chambers, 17 other chambers saw a party control change, including the Oregon House, which went from a 36-24 Democratic advantage to a 30-30 tie. On average, 13 state legislative chambers change hands in every two-year election cycle. In this cycle, the following 21 chambers all moved to the Republican column:
Alabama House & Senate
Montana House
Colorado House
New Hampshire House & Senate
Indiana House
New York Senate
Iowa House
North Carolina House & Senate
Louisiana House
Ohio House
Maine House & Senate
Pennsylvania House
Michigan House
Wisconsin Assembly & Senate
Minnesota House & Senate
Montana, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, the list goes on and on........
Other chambers where Republicans made notable gains but fell short of winning the majority included the Arkansas House, where they added 17 seats, and the Connecticut House, where they added 15. In the Texas House, Democrats had actually hoped to win enough seats to take control, but wound up losing 24 seats in the body and now hold only 51 of the 150 total Texas House seats. The most Republican legislature is now Wyoming at 84% GOP, jumping over Utah and Idaho. Hawaii leapfrogged Rhode Island to become the most Democratic legislature and is now 87% Democrats.
In short summary, the Tea Party devastated the Democrats in the 2010 elections !
You are a fucking idiot who is full of opinion, no facts, just bloviating.
- WTF
- 10-29-2012, 09:30 AM
That is something to be proud of! You do realize the the Chik Fil A guy is no longer giving to anti gay hate groups. So not sure you really won that one.
And, the Wednesday Chik-Fil-A event in which hundreds of thousand turned out nationally was an anti-Obama TP demonstration most recently. . Originally Posted by Whirlaway
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep...a-gay-20120920
Chick-fil-A will no longer donate money to anti-gay groups or discuss hot-button political issues after an executive's controversial comments this summer landed the fast-food chain in the middle of the gay marriage debate.
Executives agreed in recent meetings to stop funding groups opposed to same-sex unions, including Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage
In 8 days we will know who won these but Mitt is distancing himself from the Tea Party positions.
. The same people who will turn out to throw Obama out in Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire, and other swing states. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Not that you will acknowledge that. Yes you have to act like a nut to get the GOP nomination but you can not get elected nationally acting like that, nor govern like that. That is CM point.
- Whirlaway
- 10-29-2012, 09:33 AM
Of course he is distancing himself; he has the TP vote, he is trying to peel off the blue dog democrats and others.............
You don't understand politics and campaigns do you ?
You don't understand politics and campaigns do you ?
- bojulay
- 10-29-2012, 09:33 AM
- WTF
- 10-29-2012, 09:36 AM
@ WTF...here is the Tea Party wins by the numbers.........I said that you could have won the Senate without those two nuts you nominated in Nevada and the other kooky chick in a NE State, Christy something or other.
. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
You can not win nationally. Mitt is not a win for you guys, even if he wins, which I doubt he will.
You Tea Nuts have shot your wad. These movements come and go from time to time.
- Whirlaway
- 10-29-2012, 09:36 AM
You deflect with this dribble....Your initial point was that the TP is killing the GOP...........when confronted with evidence otherwise, you now say something completely different.........what proof do you have to back up your statement that the TP is politically toxic?....
That is something to be proud of! You do realize the the Chik Fil A guy is no longer giving to anti gay hate groups. So not sure you really won that one.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep...a-gay-20120920
Chick-fil-A will no longer donate money to anti-gay groups or discuss hot-button political issues after an executive's controversial comments this summer landed the fast-food chain in the middle of the gay marriage debate.
Executives agreed in recent meetings to stop funding groups opposed to same-sex unions, including Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage
In 8 days we will know who won these but Mitt is distancing himself from the Tea Party positions.
Not that you will acknowledge that. Yes you have to act like a nut to get the GOP nomination but you can not get elected nationally acting like that, nor govern like that. That is CM point. Originally Posted by WTF
- bojulay
- 10-29-2012, 09:42 AM
I also see a new book coming out after the election.
Title: Where The Obama Administration Went Wrong.
It will be a best seller and a long read, about like War And Peace.
ha ha ha ha
Title: Where The Obama Administration Went Wrong.
It will be a best seller and a long read, about like War And Peace.
ha ha ha ha
- Whirlaway
- 10-29-2012, 09:44 AM
More proof you are a complete imbecile on political issues; without the TP the GOP would have never made the historic gains they did....but you argue that because the the GOP didn't win all the marbles the TP is toxic ?
Your a bumbling fool....but please stay ignorant, it makes it easier to defeat you.
Your a bumbling fool....but please stay ignorant, it makes it easier to defeat you.
I said that you could have won the Senate without those two nuts you nominated in Nevada and the other kooky chick in a NE State, Christy something or other.
You can not win nationally. Mitt is not a win for you guys, even if he wins, which I doubt he will.
You Tea Nuts have shot your wad. These movements come and go from time to time. Originally Posted by WTF
- JD Barleycorn
- 10-29-2012, 09:51 AM
WTF! Something to be proud of? Okay you scared a man into not doing something. You and your ilk oppressed him. You took away his right of free speech. You are proud of that?
This thread started about "afte the election". So lets go there. Sequestration... Obama's idea. Lets make that clear. Anything that happens or will happen is what Obama wanted. A half a trillion dollar cut to the defense budget over ten years (don't want to be accused of Obamanizing the numbers), and major cuts in disastor spending. You know FEMA, Coast Guard, etc. They should be pretty busy this week and weekend. Imagine if they didn't exist or were reduced considerably. Unless the Congress, this congress, takes action with the president sequestration will happen on January 1st. If Obama gets reelected, looking more and more less likely, then why would he make a deal when this is his idea?
This thread started about "afte the election". So lets go there. Sequestration... Obama's idea. Lets make that clear. Anything that happens or will happen is what Obama wanted. A half a trillion dollar cut to the defense budget over ten years (don't want to be accused of Obamanizing the numbers), and major cuts in disastor spending. You know FEMA, Coast Guard, etc. They should be pretty busy this week and weekend. Imagine if they didn't exist or were reduced considerably. Unless the Congress, this congress, takes action with the president sequestration will happen on January 1st. If Obama gets reelected, looking more and more less likely, then why would he make a deal when this is his idea?
- WTF
- 10-29-2012, 10:03 AM
You deflect with this dribble....Your initial point was that the TP is killing the GOP...........when confronted with evidence otherwise, you now say something completely different.........what proof do you have to back up your statement that the TP is politically toxic?.... Originally Posted by WhirlawayNationally you are dead, if in fact you were ever alive. Santorum was your choice and he could not even get nominated.
You are the Jessie Jackson of your party. A brief bright star ....you are not dead, dead .... the GOP will have to pander to you but as a national movement , you are dead. You are the NAACP of the GOP if you will. I am not making a moral judgement, just observing a fact. One history repeats over and over and over.
Learn to listen to what I am saying and not just what you think I might say.
If you do not think Sharon Engle and Christy O'Donnel cost you the Senate , your are long gone.
The two dipshit Senate hopefuls might cost you the Senate again with their women rape comments. Those are Tea Nut Folks there.
- WTF
- 10-29-2012, 10:09 AM
More proof you are a complete imbecile on political issues; without the TP the GOP would have never made the historic gains they did....but you argue that because the the GOP didn't win all the marbles the TP is toxic ?They made those gains despite the Tea Party. Sharon Ingle! I mean really.
. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Christy O'Donnel? WTF were you guys thinking? You had the Senate.
I am not dumb enough to run for anything. My job is to try and read the so called 'Tea' Leaf and make money from that reading.
Your a bumbling fool....but please stay ignorant, it makes it easier to defeat you. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
- WTF
- 10-29-2012, 10:11 AM
WTF! Something to be proud of? Okay you scared a man into not doing something. You and your ilk oppressed him. You took away his right of free speech. You are proud of that?He still has his right to free speech and the ensuing fall out from it.
Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
btw I thought Whirly said it was a victory!
