How safe is SCREENING WITH REAL WORLD INFORMATION? (POLL)

You're forgetting that this is Coed where hookers and pussy WK's don't expect hookers to be held accountable Originally Posted by citizen44

How is that working out for AXOXO?

what is the half life of atomic waste?
how long does the potty mouth handle hang on the provider? Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

about that long

Small non-representative sample, survivorship bias, and self selection make this not super useful obviously but thus far 3 of the 12 people polled who have shared RW info have been burned. 25% chance of a negative outcome. Not good odds.

Not all fucktards who have been burned want to admit it.

None of Strippers or women off SD sites like seeking arrangement I have met up with asked for my real name, address, where I work.

In reference to the question about where a guy works: Do providers call the workplace to verify employment / income? Seems crazy - would never give my personal info out like that. I have all available I would want with the two sources above. Girl I am seeing now, a keeper and not looking as long as I have her; I mean she's she is really good and available whenever I want. From a safety point of view I feel more safe w her than some total stranger who I have no idea where she has been or her bc status.

A friend who is divorced and has had strippers, providers, etc at his house has even had BF of girls show up. He had to pull a gun on one to make the guy get off his porch (and he would have used it). He also has had girls he has seen show up at odd hours of nite asking for session or with a girlfriend offering session - at a hard to refuse price like $.6 probably they needed drugs. So giving ones home address has risks or....... He recently had two of them all nite long.

Like I said before, it's only the old and fat whores that ask for RL info. The 18-19 yr old whore demographic just want money and do basic Eccie handle references.

Scenario 1.

I see said whore in the ad section. I see her reviews and notice she is the filthy dirty who I seek.

PM her if she's down for hour and give contact info other eccie verified dirty whores who have seen me and give the thumbs up. We inevitably do our thing, review, and complete.

Now that's a dirty whore

Senerio 2. Same as Senerio 1 except this whore thinks this screening is not enough, and the whore wants more info like RL info (name, non hobby phone, work info).

I call that a dirty whore with an Agenda.

Not all fucktards who have been burned want to admit it. Originally Posted by dearhunter

Me thincks if they get burned bad enough they probably aren't in the hobby anymore.

Perhaps, a solution for those providers who happen to join "the club" due to genuine human error....would be to adopt a screening policy that does not require real-life-info.

Then, "the tag" becomes moot.

Thanks for all of the feedback. I can not disagree with a lot of the reasoning here.

I find it's always helpful to try & "put the shoe on the other foot."

For the men who have Vouches & okay's, I can't disagree with you.
That should very well be enough to screen for. And a provider asking for MORE above & beyond your vouches seems not only ridiculous, but yes, highly suspicious.

I have typically always accepted 2 Vouches, as long as they both returned "thumbs up"- without any real world info. I can see now that to ask for more is a big no-no.

It still leaves me in a position though, to ask for screening info from noobs, or guide them to P411.

This has also additionally led me on a search with them (P411) through the policies, just to reinforce my sense of trust, on exactly their methods & procedures are for "when stuff goes south."
As I well should be, as I am handing them my trust (if/when) with my safety for them to ACTUALLY screen.

(A hobbyist can go bad at any time, let us not forget, as can any provider.... It happens, sadly.)

I really do appreciate you guys taking the time & effort to post; and opening up (somewhat lol) and letting me get a peek inside your heads when you go through this process or witness the worst happening to others. For letting me know some of the issues & feelings that are at hand, as it helps me to be a better provider to be mindful & to "truly know my clients situation."

I think discussions like this are actually what make the differences in issues & add to a more common understanding.

Thank-you, gents.

Peeking at the lil' head is way more fun...Foxy

Thank-you, gents.

Originally Posted by FoxyNC

Your welcome!

Not long ago, a personal friend and former co-worker of mine...who I know very well...joined this site. Following my advice, I instructed him to pay for PA as well as get a P411 account, and he did exactly that. I told him..."you're set my brother. Have fun!"

So here he is...a newbie with no references...but he bought a P411 account. To my knowledge you still have to give up some personal information in order to make the screening process viable, correct?

He tried for weeks to get so-called "newbie friendly" providers to see him, even though he had a P411 account. He got caught in the catch-22 of no OK's no references...no pussy.

He's a good dude and I trust him completely, but that doesn't do him any good. So I think he has to either go to the spas or SC to hobby.

Sucks to be a newbie these days when the screening services that we pay for and have to give up RW info for...are useless. Originally Posted by john353

I completely understand what you are saying. but that is not true with every provider.

for example I was really newbie friendly. of course I needed information the verify who the gentleman was and to make sure that my safety wasn't in danger. I will never criticize any of my following providers way of screen because it is their body and their choice.

they are gentlemen who have absolutely no problem to giving out their real name or phone number. the reasons why they hobby Is not like lot of gentleman.

I will say this though a lot of gentleman asked me why I stopped seeing Newbies I had three reasons and I can post two of them.

Reason one: I had more than one gentleman send me a picture of their drivers license or ID. and they did not put any information out. and that really scared me because I felt that if anything ever happened to me with law enforcement and they were to go through my email or phone they can find the gentlemen's information. what if I lost or misplaced my phone. even though I do delete everything I know there is ways to bring everything back.

After my seasons I always try to explain to the gentleman that wasn't necessary. explain to them the dangers of it. and I also refer them to P411 and I would send them an email. and refer them to providers who were newbie friendly. and that's where I went wrong because some of them were asking for that information and all I did was confusing. and the console emails text messaging and phone calls we're out of control. and I genuinely feel bad because I couldn't reply to all of them Fast enough.

Second reason: I do have a very open menu but there is courageous things I refuse to do. And it seems like only the newbies did NOT understand that.

I did and still do tell any newbie who contact me Some information to help them out.

gentleman who are newbies to this world have to understand just because one provided give them a hard time or he is not Willing to go Through her screaming does not mean the next provider is like that.

Just MOVE ON to the next lady ...