Transgender troops in the military - NOT GOING AWAY!

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Mr. Population Control:
Did you know mentally ill Trannies have the highest suicide rate in the entire world? How can you be combat ready when you are mentally ill and don't know which bathroom to use? Mentally ill tranny for your foxhole then. So be it.
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Mr. Population Control:
Did you know mentally ill Trannies have the highest suicide rate in the entire world? How can you be combat ready when you are mentally ill and don't know which bathroom to use? Mentally ill tranny for your foxhole then. So be it. Originally Posted by HoHound

About the suicide rate, you also need to blame the enablers who allowed them to believe it's OK to be a transgender when it's really not.


Pictured is a fucking disgrace and embarrassment to the American people. We were the laughing stock of the world.


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Thank you for that direct and concise response.

This can be settled once and for all by putting together a unit of predominantly trans soldiers and putting them into the field. I would strongly suggest to Sec. DEf. Hegseth that his be done. We have field exercises every year so this shouldn't be a drawn out process. I imagine that the LGBTQ advocates would endorse this evaluation. Originally Posted by ICU 812
As a Point of Order.
The actions you are suggesting results in the segregation for the Military.
President Truman signed an Executive Order in 1948 that desegregated the US Military.
This is likely what Yssup Rider was alluding to in his comment to you of "History".
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Mr. Population Control:
Did you know mentally ill Trannies have the highest suicide rate in the entire world? How can you be combat ready when you are mentally ill and don't know which bathroom to use? Mentally ill tranny for your foxhole then. So be it. Originally Posted by HoHound
Sir,
Back when I joined and I believe it's still done.. Every person gets a psyche test. Let's leave the speculation for the Dr's to diagnose.
I have no problem with trans people serving. Let professionals determine who's able to serve and leave the bigotry and phobia in the past
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Sir,
I've seen those manly men you describe in combat.
Several ran when fired upon. Several broke down in tears and shock. Several came home with severe ptsd! A few of those manly men took their own lives.
All of said manly men were never the same after combat.
If any persons. Man woman or trans can follow orders and not breakdown, I want them fighting with me.
This trans phobia needs to stop Originally Posted by winn dixie
As a Point of Order . . .
No Man, Woman, Person who has been in Combat is unscathed.
All are changed, for ever.

Many will deny any changes, but will fall victim to the 1000 Meter Stare unknowingly.
They are are still "jumpy" even after the 50 year anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War.
No one touches them when they are sleeping to wake them up.

The effects of War/Combat directly impact anyone who has experienced it.
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As a Point of Order . . .
No Man, Woman, Person who has been in Combat is unscathed.
All are changed, for ever.

Many will deny any changes, but will fall victim to the 1000 Meter Stare unknowingly.
They are are still "jumpy" even after the 50 year anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War.
No one touches them when they are sleeping to wake them up.

The effects of War/Combat directly impact anyone who has experienced it. Originally Posted by biomed1
Agreed.
But I've personally seen what one poster was alluding to as manly men completely break down when actual bullets start flying. All the drills all the war games and simulations are way different than the real thing.
Point I'm making. The physical and psyche exams and all the training that weed out the unfit is one thing
But actual combat will show those who can and can't take it.
It's just different.
Something biomed alluded to....
I myself have to be seated where I can see all points of entry and sometimes I still analyze new places when entering. I believe that's more of my training but who knows.
If a trans person can get thru training. Who am I to say no they can't serve
Schwarzer Ritter's Avatar
Transphobia...there it is. A made up word that something different than the word sounds. Who has a FEAR of trannies. What you are trying to describe sounds like hatred of trans people but you offer no proof of that hatred. Saying that you don't want to serve alongside trans people is like saying you don't want to serve alongside thieves, perverts, cowards, and the mentally incompetent. That is not hatred. Go find a different word.
winn dixie's Avatar
Transphobia...there it is. A made up word that something different than the word sounds. Who has a FEAR of trannies. What you are trying to describe sounds like hatred of trans people but you offer no proof of that hatred. Saying that you don't want to serve alongside trans people is like saying you don't want to serve alongside thieves, perverts, cowards, and the mentally incompetent. That is not hatred. Go find a different word. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter
Omg and good grief!
This thread is about trans phobia.
The bigotry and bias against trans people serving in the military.

Ohh and here ya go

What is another word for transphobia?
transmisia
Transphobia is now referred to as transmisia. The “misia” in transmisia means “hatred.” This is a helpful word because it highlights the prejudice at the root of beliefs, attitudes, behaviors, and systems that hurt or deny the existence of trans and nonbinary people.
biomed1's Avatar
Agreed.
But I've personally seen what one poster was alluding to as manly men completely break down when actual bullets start flying. All the drills all the war games and simulations are way different than the real thing.
Point I'm making. The physical and psyche exams and all the training that weed out the unfit is one thing
But actual combat will show those who can and can't take it.
It's just different.
Something biomed alluded to....
I myself have to be seated where I can see all points of entry and sometimes I still analyze new places when entering. I believe that's more of my training but who knows.
If a trans person can get thru training. Who am I to say no they can't serve Originally Posted by winn dixie
To be extremely clear - I am not alluding to anything.
While I may not have "been a Marine who was in the Shit", I am speaking from personal experience.

I can remember when my Father came home from Vietnam and how he had changed and watched the issues he dealt with.
I can remember a time when Dad was so drunk that he was pleading with God to let him die.
He was one of a handful of Marines that survived a VC Ambush, while most of the Platoon was killed.
I remember my Mother; who is also a Former Marine trying to help and not know what to do.
This tested their Marriage severely but Mom never gave up and they Celebrated their 60th Wedding Anniversary shortly before Dad passed.

I have my own bundle of experiences that I carry with me every day.
I am 1 of 2 people in my MOS Training class that are still alive today.
Both of us were lucky enough to retire.

I escorted one of my best troops home for the last time at the request of his Widow and offered my respects and support and the gratitude of the President and a Grateful Nation.
This as the Honor Squad fired 3 Volleys, each so precise that they sounded as one rifle while I presented a precisely fold Flag to his Mother and then another to his Widow.

While not a Marine, I still attended 2 Weeks at Quantico to improve my abilities with a weapon to a level needed for where we were going.

I also speak of my Son and his experiences and the issues he deals with every day.
We went to supper one evening in El Paso, TX after he had retired.
We were sitting in a very busy and loud restaurant and he zoned out and had the 1000 Meter Stare and then he broke out into a sweat and the restaurant was so cold people were wearing winter coats.
I was finally able to get his attention and ask him where he had been, and all he told me was I didn't want to know.

I always sit with my back to the wall being able to visualize all the doors and any windows.
In my mind I am looking for where trouble will come from and how to get the hell out if need be.
I watch the movement of everyone.

As some have stated in the Forums of Eccie, I'm not a fun person.
I don't speak of my time in the Military much, on Eccie as it's nobody's business normally.
On this topic, I have practical experience and speak the unvarnished truth of 3 generations.
War/Combat changes a Human Being.
These changes are life long and can be fatal even many years after the exposure.

I have pointed myself for the flagrant Thread Hijack found in this post.
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War/Combat changes a Human Being.
These changes are life long and can be fatal even many years after the exposure. Originally Posted by biomed1
Right you are.



I have pointed myself for the flagrant Thread Hijack found in this post. Originally Posted by biomed1
LMAO!!!!
winn dixie's Avatar
To be extremely clear - I am not alluding to anything.
While I may not have "been a Marine who was in the Shit", I am speaking from personal experience.

I can remember when my Father came home from Vietnam and how he had changed and watched the issues he dealt with.
I can remember a time when Dad was so drunk that he was pleading with God to let him die.
He was one of a handful of Marines that survived a VC Ambush, while most of the Platoon was killed.
I remember my Mother; who is also a Former Marine trying to help and not know what to do.
This tested their Marriage severely but Mom never gave up and they Celebrated their 60th Wedding Anniversary shortly before Dad passed.

I have my own bundle of experiences that I carry with me every day.
I am 1 of 2 people in my MOS Training class that are still alive today.
Both of us were lucky enough to retire.

I escorted one of my best troops home for the last time at the request of his Widow and offered my respects and support and the gratitude of the President and a Grateful Nation.
This as the Honor Squad fired 3 Volleys, each so precise that they sounded as one rifle while I presented a precisely fold Flag to his Mother and then another to his Widow.

While not a Marine, I still attended 2 Weeks at Quantico to improve my abilities with a weapon to a level needed for where we were going.

I also speak of my Son and his experiences and the issues he deals with every day.
We went to supper one evening in El Paso, TX after he had retired.
We were sitting in a very busy and loud restaurant and he zoned out and had the 1000 Meter Stare and then he broke out into a sweat and the restaurant was so cold people were wearing winter coats.
I was finally able to get his attention and ask him where he had been, and all he told me was I didn't want to know.

I always sit with my back to the wall being able to visualize all the doors and any windows.
In my mind I am looking for where trouble will come from and how to get the hell out if need be.
I watch the movement of everyone.

As some have stated in the Forums of Eccie, I'm not a fun person.
I don't speak of my time in the Military much, on Eccie as it's nobody's business normally.
On this topic, I have practical experience and speak the unvarnished truth of 3 generations.
War/Combat changes a Human Being.
These changes are life long and can be fatal even many years after the exposure.

I have pointed myself for the flagrant Thread Hijack found in this post. Originally Posted by biomed1
Thanks for sharing. I'd say reverse those points!
winn dixie's Avatar
Out of respect for bio

Let's reset this thread going forward
Back To the ops first post

https://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p...77&postcount=1

Go
Schwarzer Ritter's Avatar
To be extremely clear - I am not alluding to anything.
While I may not have "been a Marine who was in the Shit", I am speaking from personal experience.

I can remember when my Father came home from Vietnam and how he had changed and watched the issues he dealt with.
I can remember a time when Dad was so drunk that he was pleading with God to let him die.
He was one of a handful of Marines that survived a VC Ambush, while most of the Platoon was killed.
I remember my Mother; who is also a Former Marine trying to help and not know what to do.
This tested their Marriage severely but Mom never gave up and they Celebrated their 60th Wedding Anniversary shortly before Dad passed.

I have my own bundle of experiences that I carry with me every day.
I am 1 of 2 people in my MOS Training class that are still alive today.
Both of us were lucky enough to retire.

I escorted one of my best troops home for the last time at the request of his Widow and offered my respects and support and the gratitude of the President and a Grateful Nation.
This as the Honor Squad fired 3 Volleys, each so precise that they sounded as one rifle while I presented a precisely fold Flag to his Mother and then another to his Widow.

While not a Marine, I still attended 2 Weeks at Quantico to improve my abilities with a weapon to a level needed for where we were going.

I also speak of my Son and his experiences and the issues he deals with every day.
We went to supper one evening in El Paso, TX after he had retired.
We were sitting in a very busy and loud restaurant and he zoned out and had the 1000 Meter Stare and then he broke out into a sweat and the restaurant was so cold people were wearing winter coats.
I was finally able to get his attention and ask him where he had been, and all he told me was I didn't want to know.

I always sit with my back to the wall being able to visualize all the doors and any windows.
In my mind I am looking for where trouble will come from and how to get the hell out if need be.
I watch the movement of everyone.

As some have stated in the Forums of Eccie, I'm not a fun person.
I don't speak of my time in the Military much, on Eccie as it's nobody's business normally.
On this topic, I have practical experience and speak the unvarnished truth of 3 generations.
War/Combat changes a Human Being.
These changes are life long and can be fatal even many years after the exposure.

I have pointed myself for the flagrant Thread Hijack found in this post. Originally Posted by biomed1

Thank you for your service.
Schwarzer Ritter's Avatar
Omg and good grief!
This thread is about trans phobia.
The bigotry and bias against trans people serving in the military.

Ohh and here ya go

What is another word for transphobia?
transmisia
Transphobia is now referred to as transmisia. The “misia” in transmisia means “hatred.” This is a helpful word because it highlights the prejudice at the root of beliefs, attitudes, behaviors, and systems that hurt or deny the existence of trans and nonbinary people. Originally Posted by winn dixie

Okay, now we have the correct word. Lets justify it.
How many marines were wearing stockings and garters when they raised the flag over Two Jima?
How many drag queens were involved in the defense of Saigon during the Tet Offensive?
Did Willy or Joe wear mascara when Bill Mauldin used them in his cartoons?
Any platform boots at Fallujah? Pasties?