Verify Him

To get wage information the person has to have signed a consent form. It is typically only used when a person is getting a loan.

Yes that is why I said they have to have signed release. Like I said most larger companies will not release any employee information at all without a signed release, regardless of what it is just to cover their own asses.

And how does employment verification work? Do you call the clients employer? Who do you say you are with?

We don't need to know how much you make. We don't need to talk to your boss, or anyone else.

All we need to do is verify that your place of employment is legitimate, and verify that you work there. Normally this is done by calling the main number and being able to reach YOU.

Really, it's very innocuous. No one would be suspicious of the call... tell them we're just confirming your dentist appointment, if anyone is being nosy.

Also, please don't forget that if you have two solid provider references, you need not do an employment verification. The provider references will likely be sufficient. In addition, if you are a new applicant signing up via references, you are eligible for a 6 month free trial membership (no cc, no strings!).

In regards to payments for those needing to join via employment verification, we have numerous options, including a few that are totally anonymous. We don't do automatically recurring renewals either. So when your membership is getting close to expiry, we send you an email. If you want to renew, you can... if you don't, you' don't have to and there is nothing to cancel.

Give us a try... I'm know you'll think it's worth every penny, and kick yourself for not joining sooner.

Always,
Gina

If I receive communications from someone who has 3 different names on their e-mail, P411 and signature, I'm staying away. That's too much of a headache.
(The handle on ECCIE is different, most of the time, clients will PM me and sign with their real name or whatever name they want to be known by.)
I am Allie Kat. My e-mail is Allie Kat. Everything says Allie Kat. If you want a different "persona" at least pick one and stick with it.
I believe when girls screen through your employment, they just call and ask for you. I don't use that method so I'm not 100% certain.

Good luck with your site, I'm sure the fellas will be lining up with ID and their SSN in hand. Originally Posted by KenMonk

Thank you hun, ....& Good Luck to you as well
on limiting your chances of possibly
meeting some great woman over something you know not that much
about as far as one's reasons for screening & how they go about it...

P411 is 100% Canadian owned and operated. Indeed, prostitution is legal in Canada and the climate leans towards keeping women safe from harm, rather than stringing them up for choices they've made about how to run their lives.

Once a member is approved, we delete and destroy any personal information that may have been collected during the verification process. We only want to know that you are a legitimate client, we don't care who you are.

Always,
Gina Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Hi there Gina...
How are you hun?

Thank you hun, ....& Good Luck to you as well
on limiting your chances of possibly
meeting some great woman over something you know not that much
about as far as one's reasons for screening & how they go about it...





Hi there Gina...
How are you hun? Originally Posted by Bambii

Limiting what? Most of the beautifully awesome ladies here are content with either p411 or two references. That doesn't require me to give my private information to a provider. If I am limiting myself in the chance of seeing great ladies, then you are clearly limiting your own chances of seeing some great guys, as well as making some cash. It is a two way street which you clearly fail to realize. I also stated that if I wanted to see a provider who told me she wouldn't see me unless I had p411 I would get it, that simple but I am not prepred to go any further then that.

With that said, I have the utmost respect for the ladies in this profession and anyone who has seen me can attest to that. I'm sure it is very difficult for ladies to not know what is on the othe side of the phone or door when I have seen pictures etc and I want to be verified by a provider. I just refuse to be probed in the manner of a PI, or PI tool that has access to information even my friends don't have access to. Its silly and you are scaring guys off trust me it is already being dicussed.

It also doesn't help that you are hanging around with the double Ds.... aka dumb detectives. I say that be it appears MJ, Monroe, and Monica Diamond think the are PI's and clearly you think so to. I have even admitted to wanting to see all three of these ladies but stuff like this continues to put me off and I am at the point now where burning the bridge doesn't concern me anymore.

Limiting what? Most of the beautifully awesome ladies here are content with either p411 or two references. That doesn't require me to give my private information to a provider. If I am limiting myself in the chance of seeing great ladies, then you are clearly limiting your own chances of seeing some great guys, as well as making some cash. It is a two way street which you clearly fail to realize. I also stated that if I wanted to see a provider who told me she wouldn't see me unless I had p411 I would get it, that simple but I am not prepred to go any further then that.

With that said, I have the utmost respect for the ladies in this profession and anyone who has seen me can attest to that. I'm sure it is very difficult for ladies to not know what is on the othe side of the phone or door when I have seen pictures etc and I want to be verified by a provider. I just refuse to be probed in the manner of a PI, or PI tool that has access to information even my friends don't have access to. Its silly and you are scaring guys off trust me it is already being dicussed.

It also doesn't help that you are hanging around with the double Ds.... aka dumb detectives. I say that be it appears MJ, Monroe, and Monica Diamond think the are PI's and clearly you think so to. I have even admitted to wanting to see all three of these ladies but stuff like this continues to put me off and I am at the point now where burning the bridge doesn't concern me anymore. Originally Posted by KenMonk

I really don't know WTF your
talking about because IDGAF..... except for the last
few sentences...

First off!! There is no need to put me in a category with anyone..
U don't know me well enough or for that matter at all to tell
me I think I'm a PI.... I D C what you think as far as how
I choose to protect myself.... 2nd I know that I am a more than little paranoid
and for good reason that not many, only a few regulars know
about,

But yes I may be a little paranoid,.......Sure Absolutely.....,
but 1 thing I'm not is in Jail.


Gees freaking Louise I was simply promoting
this thread as instructed to by verify him and once again it
turned into being misunderstood totally... Ri - Freakin - diculous

Hey Bambii...do what works for you. I'm sure the other providers, if nothing else, appreciate the thought.

Your style may not work for alot of us guys....but it is for you to chose. At the end of the day, all of us in hobbyland have to find our own style, and others styles that fit within ours.

But we all have the right to pick the method(s) that best work for us, individually. Without taking grief from anyone

Hey Bambii...do what works for you. I'm sure the other providers, if nothing else, appreciate the thought.

Your style may not work for alot of us guys....but it is for you to chose. At the end of the day, all of us in hobbyland have to find our own style, and others styles that fit within ours.

But we all have the right to pick the method(s) that best work for us, individually. Without taking grief from anyone Originally Posted by vkmaster

Your awesome & your absolutely right.... Thanks

& for the record the only thing I ask for
is a reference or an email address.....
I have never asked for more than that... ssn? Thats ludacris
Nor would I stoop that low..... if I cant get comfortable
with the results I receive using the info given
I move on as Im sure many others know... lol

for the record the only thing I ask for
is a reference or an email address.....
I have never asked for more than that... ssn? Thats ludacris
Nor would I stoop that low..... if I cant get comfortable
with the results I receive using the info given
I move on as Im sure many others know... lol Originally Posted by Bambii

Amen Bambii

KenMonk et al. I think the whole point of the thread is to provide ladies with another method/tool to help them provide a safe "date"(with out the worry of LE). Safe for her and you. Guys have it alot easier screening women. P411, their reviews, ads, word of mouth(so to speak) ect...... So I see no reason, (but that never stopped anyone here) to make this whole thread a rant who is comfy with sharing what info. If a request is made and you don't want the risk by golly move on like you said.

You have certain standards of privacy/anonymity, and the ladies have to make reasonable request to authenticate who they are dealing with. Both in the sense of LE (Odds are they will get busted before you) and from a perspective of their safety.

As far as P411 look at the stats on their website 27k guys and 9k ladies. Do you think for a moment that LE has the time or resources to devote to tracking down everyone on there, filling up the jails on remote chance that some of them at some time just might have crossed paths. I think NOT!!!

I have a membership there (or did) the verification process was simple and anonymous. I was asked for a minimum amount of info, got a call from GinaXXX (or associate) and concluded the whole conversation with an office full of people. (my mind was sweating bullets but nobody else knew a thing) Its not a big deal, but if your comfort level is low or what you have to risk is to great then....... ummmmm.... stay home and jack off.



P.S. My vote is with You and I, with Busty CiCi riding side kick.

You started this thread off with posting information about using a site that a PI would use. In order to effectively use a site such as this you need a certain amount of information. That screams paranoia to the extreme simply because you would need at least a full name and date of birth. That right there is enough to commit identify theft to say the least. That is my main concern and this was brought up in private so I am not the only one. I am simply the only one taking a stand on it.
I also stated yet again I want to be screened, but at what point is it too far? You said yourself you use a PI site then say that you only ask for one reference and an email addy? Which is it? If I wanted to see you tomorrow night would I have a chance, or would I need to give out a ton of information? You are sending mixed signals is all I am saying. Not to mention the track record as of late of the individuals you have associated yourself well is shady at best.
That is the perceived view of the hobbyist around here at least.

Your stand is dully noted now let it be. Go look on Facebook for 5 minutes you wanna talk about prime Identity theft area. Full name, hometown, mothers name brothers name, birthdays, work experience, EVERYTHING..... for half the people in the freaking country.

lol indeed I don't mess around with facebook much either.

I could tell you stories about how information as innocent as it sounds is used by organized crime every day in one form of a scam or another. Its a terrible idea to give up that information. I know screening makes the ladies feel comfortable but its a smoke screen of protection. Do you not believe that LE can provide fake ID's, do you think its beyond their realm to have someone answering a phone and acting like a receptionist at a work place to verify the employment and identity of a UC. I mean really, come on, think about it, if the purpose of screening were to prevent violence, tell me how it does so. The only purpose in that case is to give the police the name of your murderer. I wouldn't give a provider I just met or talked to my real name, she is not going to give me hers. Screening doesn't really prevent you from going to jail, LE knows what is required and knows how to get around screening if it wants to. The reality is, the best protection against being arrested is gut instict. If it feels wrong it is. Its not necessary to turn Ken into a bad guys just because he has a different stance. You would be suprized how many people feel the same way. And if you think Iam speaking out my ass, give me the same basic information that you would give a provider and I will make a call and we can see what happens LOL, I bet you wont like it though LOL. Stick to your guns Ken, shitflipper is just trying to get a freebie LOL. (just playing POO).

So there is some stand taking. Hmmm. Here is the issue Mr Monk. You won't give up personal info? Yet you went from newbie to having references. Which means your refs don't screen. So, for us paranoid ladies, you don't have any valid refs. You just put a lid on your options. I am super newbie friendly, because I do research. A lot of it. And maybe some people are dumb enough to fall for a fake receptionist but it is really pretty basic to check the business first. The amount of prep work involved in creating a fake business that will pass a check guarantees that it won't happen. And it is really silly to call verifyhim a PI tool. This has been around for a while, I'm guessing these girls don't hve PR access. I've looked at it and found it be of little value. But it isn't hard or expensive to dig up a birthdate either.