CALIFORNIA DREAMING.............

If Thomas, Kennedy, Alito, Scalia or Roberts retire or die, and they are replaced by Obama, we're screwed. If Obama ever gets a 5-4 Marxist majority, the Constitution is effectively void. Originally Posted by joe bloe

You two Drama Queens are almost as bad as Cutiepie!

Ah, yes. From WDF, the proven lying Obamaton. He simply says what the establishment wants him to say.

Actually, Joe, the Constitution is effectively void as it sits right now. It has no serious relevance to our lives. Government pretty much has a free hand in all our affairs, and that is thanks to both Democrats and Republicans.

Yep; Obama will order it....he doesn't care if it is illegal. He will wait untill the Republicans challenge it in court, then litigate in hope of another Robert's ruling in his favor. Keep in mind, with a 2nd term, Obama will likely get another SCOTUS appointment, and possibly two appointments.

Scary stuff; but true.............. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Damn Whirley, on this thread you were like Audie Murphy and Sargent York all rolled in one. Good job Bro...fuckem

HOW THE PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS HELPED KILL THE CALIFORNIA DREAM... Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Speaking of "Unions." Wasn't the Father of California Progressive Politics, Ronald Reagan, once the President of the Screen Actors Guild? Isn't the Screen Actors Guild a Union?

http://www.sag.org/home

Yikes, that explains everything. Now we know how RR became the Father (and apparent founder) of California Progressive Politics in 1967.

Speaking of "Unions." Wasn't the Father of California Progressive Politics, Ronald Reagan, once the President of the Screen Actors Guild? Isn't the Screen Actors Guild a Union?

http://www.sag.org/home

Yikes, that explains everything. Now we know how RR became the Father (and apparent founder) of California Progressive Politics in 1967. Originally Posted by bigtex

then he woke up and saw the light, alot of former donkeys have changed, so you can drop your repeated threads about Reagan

then he woke up and saw the light, alot of former donkeys have changed, so you can drop your repeated threads about Reagan Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

Don't shoot the messenger, I am just paraphrasing Whirlybirdy's main point in the first post of this thread. Need I remind you that I wasn't the one who brought up Reagan in the first place. It was your buddy Whirlybirdy, when he cut and pasted in the first post of this thread that California Progressive Politics began in 1967.

You might ask what occurred in 1967? It was the Father and Founder of California Progressive Politics, Ronald Reagan's, first year in office as Governor of California.
Truth hurts, doesn't it fellas?

I love California! Too bad they let the unions ruin the state, can't figure out giving free healthcare to illegals who pick their crops for $5 an hour really equals $15 an hour after "free ER healthcare", and Brown is the most corrupt gov in the land. Sad.

Ronald Reagan was fond of saying that he never left the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left him.Can you imagine a Henry "Scoop" Jackson or Daniel Patrick Moynihan being at home in today's Democrat party? They even booted out a liberal like Joe Lieberman for being too conservative.

Today's Democrat party is a long way from those days. I doubt even Hubert Humphrey would be comfortable in the party today.

Don't shoot the messenger, I am just paraphrasing Whirlybirdy's main point in the first post of this thread. Need I remind you that I wasn't the one who brought up Reagan in the first place. It was your buddy Whirlybirdy, when he cut and pasted in the first post of this thread that California Progressive Politics began in 1967.

You might ask what occurred in 1967? It was the Father and Founder of California Progressive Politics, Ronald Reagan's, first year in office as Governor of California.
Truth hurts, doesn't it fellas? Originally Posted by bigtex

go to bed, cannot fix stupid

I agree that the public service unions are far too powerful and have played a major role in screwing up California. However, a couple of things have been somewhat misrepresented here. First, the Dills act had no bearing on prop 13 nor was it the first law in California to allow public sector unions. The first law allowing collective bargaining was in 1968, the Meyers-Milias-Brown Act, which allowed local (city, county, special district employees) to collectively bargain (mentioned in the city-journnal link). This was by the way, during Ronnie's first term. Prop 13, properly known as the Jarvis-Gann initiative, qualified for the 1978 ballot in 1977 having obtained the required number of valid signatures. This actually has been considered for some time as being one of the causes of California's financial problems. Yes, totally exacerbated the idiot unions. However, Jarvis-Gann ripped apart much of the financing for areas such as fire, police, school districts etc. thereby putting local governments in a severe bind which initially, the state tried to cover the lost revenue. Obviously that was and has been a failure. Also, considering that it takes a 2/3 vote in the legislature to pass a budget or raise taxes, and the fact that the Republicans have held the governor's office approximately 3 times more than the Dems, not all the blame can be put on one party.

Oh, and about Reagan and unions: This is from his 1980 campaign kick-off speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITaW...endscreen&NR=1

Ronald Reagan was fond of saying that he never left the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left him.Can you imagine a Henry "Scoop" Jackson or Daniel Patrick Moynihan being at home in today's Democrat party? They even booted out a liberal like Joe Lieberman for being too conservative.

Today's Democrat party is a long way from those days. I doubt even Hubert Humphrey would be comfortable in the party today. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

The Dimo's have been completely nuts since about 1972. The Kennedy Democrats of the sixties are today's mainstream Republicans. Kennedy campaigned on cutting taxes and building up the military. He wouldn't feel at home in the Democrat Party today.

I'm having a ball in California, in "America's Finest City".

Howyadoin' Wave! Been awhile. With the country going to hell, that's all any of us can do. Enjoy life! And enjoy California, my favorite place in the world!

Even the government can't outlaw the wind coming in over the waves. Beautiful!

Howyadoin' Wave! Been awhile. With the country going to hell, that's all any of us can do. Enjoy life! And enjoy California, my favorite place in the world!

Even the government can't outlaw the wind coming in over the waves. Beautiful!

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Let's say I was getting tired of all those threads that are all the same:
"Obama bashing"

The only set back of SD is that my ATF lives in Tucson, 400 miles away.

She's within range of the COG, Wavie, kiss her goodbye!

Obama needs to quit doing things that need bashing, But as much fun as I have here, I'd give it up for a small shack on the beach, an endless supply of rum, and many scantily clad ladies.