Hucklebee, Obama and Kenya.

The sax is sexy..........It added to his appeal and made him seem like a real person.
Guitar would be to close to the banjo with a name like that....Too hillbilly..Not marketable, no real appeal there.

Jasmine, I play guitar, have for years. Yours is the first time I have ever heard a Lady say that a Sax was sexier than a Fender Strat.

I'm crushed.

Sounds like your trying to get the "middle class" in a revolutionary mind frame. What do you propose we do Mr. Revolution Man? Originally Posted by jasmin

Simple . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h45WnW0ASFY

That song is sort of strange in that the lyrics in the chorus have nothing to do with the lyrics in the verses. "Eat The Rich", sounds real catchy, but once you get pased the volume and attitude, has little meaning at all without a explanation.

Many of us are lulled into thinking that there is something special about the USA. But, just as every great civilization has rotted from the inside out, we are probably doomed to the same fate that befell the Egyptians, the Caldeans, The Assyrians, The Greeks, The Macedonains, the Babylonians, The Hittites, The Romans, etc.

We already have become fat and lazy, and we have, as a population, discovered that we can vote people into office that will promise to give us something for nothing, and we hire mercenaries to do our fighting.

That old "from each according to his ability, and to each according to his needs" looks like a good system, except it leaves out that key ingrediant of Human Nature.

I am too old to worry about it, but my Grandkids could possibly witness the fall of the USA, and the rise of the next. The cycle will start again.

It is Motorhead.

Therefore it is good!

$50K is $50K. Where do you propose they get another job that pays another $50K for the 180 "days off"?

Then we shouldn't have any trouble finding investment bankers to work for $50K, either. Originally Posted by lizardking

"Investment bankers" work more than 180 days out of the year, at least the ones I've known, just for starters, and then there is the risk factor, not to mention the potential liability (of course, wouldn't it be nice to be able to sue teachers and school districts for "negligent training").

My perspective on the roll of education in our society is based on having experienced the task assigned and the expectations from roughly 40+ years ago in comparison to roughly 20 years ago. Not much has changed, except less family/parent support with higher family/parent expectations....and "more pregnancies, more drugs, more shootings, and more truancy....." .... Not only from teaching young "learners" but adult "learners" ... struggling to comprehend materials because of limited exposure to the basic tools necessary to consume what is available ... and the lack of curiosity and motivation to seek that which is not readily available. Responsiblity for learning begins at home, before the child ever speaks, much less walks, reads, or writes. Pushing more responsiblity on schools beyond "education" simply over burdens the system, drives up costs, and drives away competent, interesting learning facilitators.

No doubt the basis for Hucks folly.

The "risk factor" for investment banking is pretty close to zippity-fucking-doo-dah. The few banks that manage to lose money get bailed out. It's become, at least in part, a game of how to find a way to generate fees without generating anything of any inherent or tangible benefit. They finance purely financial instruments, like credit default swaps and collateralized debt obligations, and nothing so mundane - or utilitarian - as a factory. They're just bookies in many respects. On principal difference is that with a bookie or a casino, you know the odds.

Do you see any connection between "more pregnancies, more drugs, more shootings, and more truancy....." and "more poverty"?

New numbers came out today showing that 35% of american adults are receive some sort of social entitlement from the US Government (US Tax Payers) that is absolutly retarded! We need less not more entitlements in this country then maybe many would get off of their asses and earn their keep instead of expecting everything handed to them.

Do you see any connection between "more pregnancies, more drugs, more shootings, and more truancy....." and "more poverty"? Originally Posted by lizardking

About the same as breast feeding and heroine addiction.

Let's see:

"I'm broke so I think I'll get pregnant."
"I'm broke so I think I'll buy some more drugs to take."
"I'm broke so I think I'll go shoot someone with the pistol I bought."
"I'm broke so I think I'll skip the free school I have to attend."

Why would an "investment banker" ... invest in a "factory"?

An "investment banker" would "invest" in the "securities" ... i.e. the "paper" that represent the basic tansaction that was entered to make the initial purchase. There is risk involved ... in any loan transaction, and that risk is then passed to the "investor" who purchases the loan from the lender. And I would say that in the current economic circumstances the risks are even higher.

The problems we are having in the real estate markets now has nothing to do with the people who "bought" the loans from the lenders who were stupid enough to make the loans to someone who was stupid enough to borrow money to buy a house they could not afford in the first place.

To attempt to shift the "responsibility" to the lenders ... i.e. "you should not have loaned me the money that I was begging to you to loan me" ... is typical of liberal mind sets .... the "victimization" .... and then to attempt to blame the "investors" who purchase the bad loans from the lenders ... is even more .... errr...... "liberal"!

But I am not sure what all that has to do with Huck stating wrong facts.

Speaking of "bail outs" ... how does allowing a homeowner to reduce mortgage payments by 50% for six months help an "investment banker"?

I dont care if the potus is green, he is a jerk. He is no thumbing his nose at U.S. law by not following the Defense of Marriage act. He may not like it but he took an oath and he is not abiding by that oath. He should be impeached. His mis guided attempts at spending his way out of a recession are going to cost us all big time. This guy makes bush look like a genious. And while on the subject of bush, how about all the folks in the middle east rising up against dictators? No way bush gets props for spreading the notion of democracy. Back to the idiot in chief, I would bloody my own hands if I started typing the list of fails, the guy is a liar, a cheat, a theif, completly unprepaired to lead and govern. He is a fail.

Oh and a sax maybe sexier than a strat but no way is it sexier than a les paul and a big fat orange amp!

Facts. (I know a little about Kenya, having taught there and 'trained' the girls cross country team, plus met delightful Kenya Princess some time back.)

- Mau Mau was an exclusively Kikuyu thing, and as much inter Kikuyu as Kikuyu v colonialists. I remember when I was teaching Kikuyus the still bubbling antagonism between different parts of the Kikuyu tribe.

- Obama's father was not Kikuyu but from much farther west, that tribe had nothing to do with Mau Mau.

- Obama's father was imprisoned in 1949, prior to the start of Mau Mau, which started in 1952.

- Churchill was not supportive of some of the policies and actions carried out by British forces during Mau Mau.

- Obama did not meet his father until he was 10 years old.

So (a) why did Huckabee make such a spectacular idiot of himself in the recent book and interview, linking Obama and childhood influence and Mau Mau and (b) why didn't the interviewer learn about the subject and do a proper job challenging his statements (c) how many americans are influenced or believe in this nonsense (d) are there any credible republican candidates out there - good government requires a good opposition.

The issue is not the facts, those are very well known and have been subject to extensive scrutiny, the issue is why somebody should ignore the facts and push a somewhat eccentric viewpoint.

Finally, throwing out ridiculous allegations - do you see any connection with recent SHMB behaviour ?

[I am open to challenge on the above facts, i need to check reliable sources again].

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/03...eady-made-his/

http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war...mau/index.html



As believable as Berlosconi saying he never touched the girls...

Is this the right forum? Mods please move if necessary. Also I spelt name wrongly in title. Originally Posted by essence

This is so racial it is not even funny. I agree with you the facts do not support any of the things he has said. He is playing on the fears of those who ignorant of facts and wanting to believe things that simply are not true.

Huck is an idiot. He is subliminally using the tired out race issue. He is using the tired out christian complaint about wedlock by commenting on the recent best actress winner for having a bastard. His thinking is old just like his rhetorical mumblings. I don't want to hear about abortions or guns in 2012 but typical republicans will try to gain the religious base and lose independent support. They are too stupid to leave out the social issues.


Side note that is more relevant to this board is why is harry Reid trying to outlaw prostitution in Nevada? Cuzz he is stupid and playing politics. Originally Posted by ibechill

I agree his is an idiot. Yes, this is very racial. I am white and can see through this crap.

The problems we are having in the real estate markets now has nothing to do with the people who "bought" the loans from the lenders who were stupid enough to make the loans to someone who was stupid enough to borrow money to buy a house they could not afford in the first place.

To attempt to shift the "responsibility" to the lenders ... i.e. "you should not have loaned me the money that I was begging to you to loan me" ... is typical of liberal mind sets .... the "victimization" .... and then to attempt to blame the "investors" who purchase the bad loans from the lenders ... is even more .... errr...... "liberal"!

But I am not sure what all that has to do with Huck stating wrong facts.

Speaking of "bail outs" ... how does allowing a homeowner to reduce mortgage payments by 50% for six months help an "investment banker"? Originally Posted by LexusLover

This is a bunch of malarky. I was right there closing deals left and right for lenders in a Title company during that entire "refinance" loans boon, and watching lenders tell people they can afford home loans with outrageous interest rates, and balloon payments and adjustable rate mortgages, and most of the people who were at my table signing these papers did not fully understand what they were getting into. In fact I had lenders telling me at the closing table to skip some of the pertinent parts of those ARM's loans as not to alarm the people of the consequences. They were pushing these bad loans on people who had no business qualifying for them in the first place. The lenders were out to make money no matter what the cost to these people and the repercussions to follow for what is now a national emergency with people losing their homes left and right. I blame the lenders and the mortgage brokers for this.

This is a bunch of malarky. I was right there closing deals left and right for lenders in a Title company during that entire "refinance" loans boon, and watching lenders tell people they can afford home loans with outrageous interest rates, and balloon payments and adjustable rate mortgages, and most of the people who were at my table signing these papers did not fully understand what they were getting into. In fact I had lenders telling me at the closing table to skip some of the pertinent parts of those ARM's loans as not to alarm the people of the consequences. They were pushing these bad loans on people who had no business qualifying for them in the first place. The lenders were out to make money no matter what the cost to these people and the repercussions to follow for what is now a national emergency with people losing their homes left and right. I blame the lenders and the mortgage brokers for this. Originally Posted by Bebe Le Strange

Sounds like you bear some responsibility for defrauding these people who...

... were being "pushed" into borrowing what they cannot pay back.

FYI: "Lenders" do not make money on bad loans .....only

1. title companies and the insurers they represent,
2. closers, like yourself,
3. loan brokers, of course,
4. realtors, and
5. the lawyers who draw up the closing documents.

They all get paid "up front" from the loan proceeds and "down payment"!

Again, I have looked at my share of real estate loan files and title company closing files, and they are full of disclosures and disclaimers, as far as I am concerned anyone who allows someone to sign up for $100,000 house loan without having an opportunity to read AND comprehend the fine print ... ought to be in prision with the other crooks.

That includes the "closer" and the "notary" ... unless they are the same.

It's "marlarky" to blame someone for "making" you sign a loan.

Huckabee should keep quiet.

Hey Chrome1996, sounds like the President earned his political chops in some dirtbag system like exist in Chicago.

Oh wait, he did.