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Only a cantankerous old buffoon would not see the difference between "riding a bicycle" and pumping up hills for over 2000 miles in 23 days in the Tour De France.

. . . I'd like to see you ride that bicycle, old geezer!






He rides a bicycle. Yes, he rides it very well, but he rides a bicycle. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
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  • 08-25-2012, 12:00 PM
So what is your point? Originally Posted by ekim008
COG is just jealous.


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Lance rides bicycles well. I do other things well. You must do something well, FastGoon, although for the life of me, I can't think of what it might be. WDF is good at being a sophomoric moron.
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  • 08-25-2012, 12:17 PM
Lance rides bicycles well. I do other things well. You must do something well, FastGoon, although for the life of me, I can't think of what it might be. WDF is good at being a sophomoric moron. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Posting one decent post in ten thousand is not considered ''doing well''...


I take that back, You post a bunch of half reasoned posts, really well!






@Sidewinder...I am not a cyclist, so I do not follow this story with keen eyes......

If you know, I thought I heard that Armstrong was required under his cycling agreements to fully participate in the USADA investigation and he was required to participate in it's arbitration process.....if so, his failure to participate , as he agreed, is also an indication of guilt IMO. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Some reading material.

Armstrong's amended lawsuit: http://i.usatoday.net/sports/cycling...da-lawsuit.pdf

The judge's decision: http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc.../armstrong.pdf

From the judge's decision, footnote 9, page 14: "As discussed further below, USADA's conduct raises serious questions about whether its real interest in charging Armstrong is to combat doping, or if it is acting according to less noble motives."

Ibid., footnote 36, page 27: "Among the Court's concerns is the fact that USADA has targeted Armstrong for prosecution many years after his alleged doping violations occurred, and intends to consolidate his case with those of several other alleged offenders, including -- incredibly--several over whom USA Cycling and USOC apparently have no authority whatsoever. Further, if Armstrong's allegations are true, and USADA is promising lesser sanctions against other allegedly offending riders in exchange for their testimony against Armstrong, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that USADA is motivated more by politics and a desire for media attention than faithful adherence to its obligations to USOC."
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Thanks, Sidewinder, but do you really expect us to plow through voluminous court documents in order to decipher what all went in the court room?

Wherein the party of the second party hereby affirms that blah, blah, blah!

. . . Why don't you give us the Cliff Notes version and skip the footnotes!




Some reading material.

Armstrong's amended lawsuit: http://i.usatoday.net/sports/cycling...da-lawsuit.pdf

The judge's decision: http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc.../armstrong.pdf

From the judge's decision, footnote 9, page 14: "As discussed further below, USADA's conduct raises serious questions about whether its real interest in charging Armstrong is to combat doping, or if it is acting according to less noble motives."

Ibid., footnote 36, page 27: "Among the Court's concerns is the fact that USADA has targeted Armstrong for prosecution many years after his alleged doping violations occurred, and intends to consolidate his case with those of several other alleged offenders, including -- incredibly--several over whom USA Cycling and USOC apparently have no authority whatsoever. Further, if Armstrong's allegations are true, and USADA is promising lesser sanctions against other allegedly offending riders in exchange for their testimony against Armstrong, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that USADA is motivated more by politics and a desire for media attention than faithful adherence to its obligations to USOC." Originally Posted by Sidewinder
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A judge that sees a witch hunt for what it is? There is hope for our future.
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There many things I do well, old geezer, but modesty prevents me from listing them all.

I should point out that in order for you to "think" what they are, presupposes a brain and there you fall quite short of the required equipment for the task.

. . . However, I doubt that I could ride a bicycle for 2,000 miles in 23 days through mountainous terrain!



Lance rides bicycles well. I do other things well. You must do something well, Fast Gunn, although for the life of me, I can't think of what it might be. WDF is good at being a sophomoric moron. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
I heard a radio news program on about 6/1/12 that Lance wanted additional $1.00 a pack tax on cigarettes. Some California BS IDK. Thanks Lance I have not smoked 1 cigarette since. I have saved a ton of money and feel alot better. The man did not get his taxes and again I thank Lance.

Good luck Lance I always back a TEXAN...