trevon martin

In respone to the race question; there were many people born in the US over 150 years ago to a black mother and black father but they could "pass" for white. Many of them did exactly that. They were white and that was their choice. Now this sounds good as some above me would think so but what of the aftermath? Would their wife be pretty surprised if the new baby took after dad's parents. I imagine some people would call on their hispanic heritage to explain it.

The whole idea of dividing people by race is an affront to what is American. The only people that should be concerned are the person, their mate, and their physician. Jesse Jackson, Obama, and Sharpton do not need to know nor should they be concerned. Someone should approach Jesse Jackson in public and say "Revernd Jackson, I knew Dr. King, Dr. King was a friend of mine. Reverend Jackson...you're no Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

It's amazing how these threads are started and go so far off topic or the real truth inside of someone comes to light. Bottom line is a child is dead, black or white, a child is dead. A man committed murder, justified or not, he murdered the child. Both families are going to be affected by this for the rest of their lives. Was it racial - some say yes, some say no, but reality is we are neither the victim or the accused and NONE OF US were there so we will honestly never know the answer. We can speculate all we want. We can allow our personal experiences to form our opinion of what happened every day from now til the day we die. Just remember it's just that - speculations and opinions. White people do not understand the black experience and black people do not understand the white experience and honestly the hatred in some of these posts shows that we as a people - fuck race - a people have a long way to go. Now, sandbox or not, this is an escort site and all these sub forums do is spread drama and I swear it would be better if we just kept to the nature of the board. In the words of Rodney King "can we all just get along" you don't have to like me, you don't have to understand me but damn, can we all just get along.

My Question is how often are you going to change your damn name? Got another stalker? lmfaooo please sit down somewhere this is an adult conversation. Originally Posted by Anna Davis

I don't really think that's on topic and if you read above the Admin has already warned us all that disrespectful comments to one another are not apart of this forums rules. Pm me if you would like to discuss your question further. I would love to enlighten you. Originally Posted by Sexy Katrina

I have absolutely no desire to talk to you so at all, seems like you the one who really want to talk to me but I have no time and no desire to speak to you so at all. Originally Posted by Anna Davis

Then please don't ask me question that you don't want the answer to and back to the origianl topic I believe GZ was quilty.

ANNA DAVIS COME TO ALBANY

Wasn't Trayvon standing his ground by fighting back when Zimmerman the watch dog chased after him after Zimmerman was instructed NOT TO by the 911 operator?




Sorry but the surname "Zimmerman" is nowhere near Hispanic. His mother is Hispanic but that doesn't make him Hispanic. It makes him half but to me, he is white.

Also it's funny the OP is so sick of this case yet she started her own thread about it. Lol Originally Posted by Novatx

So using your reasoning Obama must be white too.

I B Hankering, MY beliefs are , what your father is, YOU are. His father is white, his surname is white, HE IS WHITE I don't care how much Spanish he speaks (I've never heard him speak it) I don't care how many relatives in Peru he has or how he identifies himself, to me he is white and I don't care who thinks that this is ignorant thinking.

Same with Obama (to answer your question) his father is Black, ( Kenyan ) so Obama is black and most people would agree, which is why he is also called the first "African American president".
But that's another topic, and I think George Zimmerman is guilty. Originally Posted by Novatx

Hey whatever you need to do to fit it in your tunnel visioned world.

Hey whatever you need to do to fit it in your tunnel visioned world. Originally Posted by dirty dog

Yep! By her definition, Zimmerman can't be a Hispanic Afro-Amerindian, but Michelle Obama's mother is most assuredly white! Plus, Elizabeth Warren should never have received special consideration as a minority for claiming she was Cherokee by way of her descent from her great-great-great grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford.

It's amazing how these threads are started and go so far off topic or the real truth inside of someone comes to light. Bottom line is a child is dead, black or white, a child is dead. A man committed murder, justified or not, he murdered the child. Both families are going to be affected by this for the rest of their lives. Was it racial - some say yes, some say no, but reality is we are neither the victim or the accused and NONE OF US were there so we will honestly never know the answer. We can speculate all we want. We can allow our personal experiences to form our opinion of what happened every day from now til the day we die. Just remember it's just that - speculations and opinions. White people do not understand the black experience and black people do not understand the white experience and honestly the hatred in some of these posts shows that we as a people - fuck race - a people have a long way to go. Now, sandbox or not, this is an escort site and all these sub forums do is spread drama and I swear it would be better if we just kept to the nature of the board. In the words of Rodney King "can we all just get along" you don't have to like me, you don't have to understand me but damn, can we all just get along. Originally Posted by poppy71

I couldn't agree with you more! Some things should simply not mix like these sub forums on an escort site. I'm done on this useless thread. And I still have my views , like them, hate them , call them racist or tunnel vision whatever you want. I don't care.

You are sick of hearing about it and create a post on it. Originally Posted by Gotyour6

+1

It's amazing how these threads are started and go so far off topic or the real truth inside of someone comes to light. Bottom line is a child is dead, black or white, a child is dead. A man committed murder, justified or not, he murdered the child. Both families are going to be affected by this for the rest of their lives. Was it racial - some say yes, some say no, but reality is we are neither the victim or the accused and NONE OF US were there so we will honestly never know the answer. We can speculate all we want. We can allow our personal experiences to form our opinion of what happened every day from now til the day we die. Just remember it's just that - speculations and opinions. White people do not understand the black experience and black people do not understand the white experience and honestly the hatred in some of these posts shows that we as a people - fuck race - a people have a long way to go. Now, sandbox or not, this is an escort site and all these sub forums do is spread drama and I swear it would be better if we just kept to the nature of the board. In the words of Rodney King "can we all just get along" you don't have to like me, you don't have to understand me but damn, can we all just get along. Originally Posted by poppy71

Calling him a child is disingenuous at best, misleading and agenda driven at worst. 17 year olds have served in wars, and in the state of Texas, they are considered adults for criminal prosecution. In other words, a 17 year old in Texas can get the death penalty. 17 year olds, especially those who are 6'3" tall and want to be gangstas, can inflict serious bodily injury and or death. When I was 17, I thought I could kick anyone's ass out there and wouldn't have taken any shit from some fat asshole, and neither did Trayvon. I'm just lucky I never got shot, though no one except my mother would have cared, sadly.

For poppy; murder is a very specific charge and what Zimmerman did does not rise to that (the jury said so) so you need to withdraw the comment and go on.

If you support abortion then you have to support verdict. One reason given for the necessity of abortion is for unwanted children who will grow up to commit crimes. Thrown out by his step mom, estranged from his real mother...sounds like he was unwanted and getting into criminal acts. He becomes the perfect example for abortion supporters. Well not perfect, he had killed anyone yet (as far as we know).

If you support abortion then you have to support verdict. One reason given for the necessity of abortion is for unwanted children who will grow up to commit crimes. Thrown out by his step mom, estranged from his real mother...sounds like he was unwanted and getting into criminal acts. He becomes the perfect example for abortion supporters. Well not perfect, he had killed anyone yet (as far as we know). Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

What?!? How you anti-abortionists tie everything back to abortion is amazing to me.

@ Poppy, Martin wasn't a child. He was a kid; a punk kid to be exact, but he wasn't a child. And even more specifically, he wasn't a murdered child. He started a fight with a retreating asshole and the asshole shot him for it. It's a simple case of two wrongs don't make a right, but it doesn't make it murder either.

[QUOTE=Novatx;1053446219]I B Hankering, MY beliefs are , what your father is, YOU are. His father is white, his surname is white, HE IS WHITE I don't care how much Spanish he speaks (I've never heard him speak it) I don't care how many relatives in Peru he has or how he identifies himself, to me he is white and I don't care who thinks that this is ignorant thinking./quote]

Throughout antiquity parentage is specific through the mother. That is it is clear who the mother is but not the father so therefore the nationality and religion (race wasn't that big of a deal until the Modern Era) of a child are given to the child through the mother's line. So the mother's line carries much more weight historically.

Same with Obama (to answer your question) his father is Black, ( Kenyan ) so Obama is black and most people would agree, which is why he is also called the first "African American president".
But that's another topic, and I think George Zimmerman is guilty. Originally Posted by Novatx

Using your logic, looking at simply the father's line, Obama would be Kenyan and the American presidency would not be available to him. See how that works? Good for the good; good for the gander.

Zimmerman is a Jewish sir name, which is it's own ethnicity, not a WASP or even a European Catholic's name.

Not that any of that should matter. Lady Liberty is supposed to be blind.

It's amazing how these threads are started and go so far off topic or the real truth inside of someone comes to light. Bottom line is a child is dead, black or white, a child is dead. A man committed murder, justified or not, he murdered the child. Both families are going to be affected by this for the rest of their lives. Was it racial - some say yes, some say no, but reality is we are neither the victim or the accused and NONE OF US were there so we will honestly never know the answer. We can speculate all we want. We can allow our personal experiences to form our opinion of what happened every day from now til the day we die. Just remember it's just that - speculations and opinions. White people do not understand the black experience and black people do not understand the white experience and honestly the hatred in some of these posts shows that we as a people - fuck race - a people have a long way to go. Now, sandbox or not, this is an escort site and all these sub forums do is spread drama and I swear it would be better if we just kept to the nature of the board. In the words of Rodney King "can we all just get along" you don't have to like me, you don't have to understand me but damn, can we all just get along. Originally Posted by poppy71

So we'll all get a long better if we do like you say and not even try to have a dialog about the "enter your race color preference here" experience?
A couple of things.

First, fuck off.

Second, progress can only be made by discussion or experience. Progress is something measured by degree. More is better but any is better than none. I'm sure there is a tipping point for understanding but there's no telling what that point is in individuals. Different people will have different tipping points. Understanding you may never understand is a position. Knowing you may not understand is a good starting point.

I thought about which order to put those two suggestions in. I ended up with the order I used because you propose stifling debate and I thought I caught a whiff of "separate but equal". I will concede that may be the scent of twirly permeating the entire site. But if you don't like the conflict present in some of the threads in Sandbox, The Political Forum, or any other forum where the mean people hang out, put some talcum powder on your vagina and stay out of them.

Word.

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Second, progress can only be made by discussion or experience. Progress is something measured by degree. More is better but any is better than none. . . . Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

First - Experience is what you get, when you don't get what you want.

Second - More Is Never Enough!

Lets be mindful of the forum we are posting in here folks. It ain't the political forums.