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capitalism can generally take care of itself as long as there is a demand for something. It does have a dark side, robber barons which is a form of crony capitalism come to mind and it looks like history is repeating again with the current iteration of crony capitalism Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Exactly. I read an article that basically said that crony cap would start really fucking its worker bee's with the fall of the Soviet model. That seems to be true.

there fixed that. for socialism to work, it needs capitalism to fund these objectives.
Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Why doesn't Business's pay for education? After all they get the benefit of an educated work force? Why doesn't Big Business build all the roads and charge a toll? Why do we even have government. We should just let heads of corporations run the country...oh wait, that is about wtf we do now!

Just because a government levies a tax, does not make it socialist. Just because a government undertakes a project does not make it socialist. To call the space program and highway system socialist is simply the expression of appalling ignorance.

Here, WTF. Go to school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Just because a government levies a tax, does not make it socialist. Just because a government undertakes a project does not make it socialist. To call the space program and highway system socialist is simply the expression of appalling ignorance.

Here, WTF. Go to school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I had that silly argument with WTF. He told me I was a socialist if I paid tax on a candy bar. His "reasoning" was that all taxes are redistributionist and therefore socialist, so anyone who pays a tax is a socialist.

He told me I was a socialist if I paid tax on a candy bar. Originally Posted by joe bloe

Late breaking news! The jury has finally rendered a verdict.

Joe Bloe is a "socialist" pig!

I had that silly argument with WTF. He told me I was a socialist if I paid tax on a candy bar. His "reasoning" was that all taxes are redistributionist and therefore socialist, so anyone who pays a tax is a socialist. Originally Posted by joe bloe

I said that the tax was socialist in nature.

In fact most damn near every tax is.

You two comerades need to go butt fuc each other

God Damn, WTF do you call taxing people that do not have kids in school? Did Private enterprise go to the Moon? No. The state taxed all of us to pay for it, just like the Soviets did in their nation.

The Soviets changed over from Commie's and now all the people that ran the government run the Big Business. You two need a dose of reality.

Go to school, like I said. You might learn something. But I doubt it.

Go to school, like I said. You might learn something. But I doubt it. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Private School or a Public School that is funded by taking money from all to pay for people that have kids. In other words I subsidize all these nut jobs having kids that can not afford to! Socialist taxes are killing me!

I had that silly argument with WTF. He told me I was a socialist if I paid tax on a candy bar. His "reasoning" was that all taxes are redistributionist and therefore socialist, so anyone who pays a tax is a socialist. Originally Posted by joe bloe

You are right. It's a waste of time. I will just let him revel in his ignorance. He enjoys it.

You are right. It's a waste of time. I will just let him revel in his ignorance. He enjoys it.
Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yea tax's are so pro capitalism!

You just won't admit you know nothing about socialism, and I am NOT a Tea Partier.

Capitalist aren't opposed to reasonable taxation for purposes of funding a reasonable government. In fact Capitalists welcome the stability that limited government provides.

Why doesn't Business's pay for education? After all they get the benefit of an educated work force? Why doesn't Big Business build all the roads and charge a toll? Why do we even have government. We should just let heads of corporations run the country...oh wait, that is about wtf we do now! Originally Posted by WTF

Perhaps it would be better to call "public education" crony capitalism. If you study the history of education in the late 19th and early 20th century you'll see industrialists like Henry Ford setting up night classes for his workers. He needed to teach his immigrant workers how to speak English in order to communicate effectively with them to enhance profitability. These industrialists were behind the establishment of public schools; thus, transferring the costs of educating a modern work force to the community at large.

Capitalist aren't opposed to reasonable taxation for purposes of funding a reasonable government. In fact Capitalists welcome the stability that limited government provides. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

The difficult part is defining "reasonable", both in how much and for what purposes. What is one person's reasonable is another person's boondogle.

You just won't admit you know nothing about socialism, and I am NOT a Tea Partier. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Perhaps it would be better to call "public education" crony capitalism. If you study the history of education in the late 19th and early 20th century you'll see industrialists like Henry Ford setting up night classes for his workers. He needed to teach his immigrant workers how to speak English in order to communicate effectively with them to enhance profitability. These industrialists were behind the establishment of public schools; thus, transferring the costs of educating a modern work force to the community at large. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I have no problem calling it like it is. I agree with you in full.

The difficult part is defining "reasonable", both in how much and for what purposes. What is one person's reasonable is another person's boondogle. Originally Posted by Old-T

That is why these Tea Nuts do not understand that we are only debating degree.

They are no different than the folks they are debating, much as they would like to think otherwise!

You are right. It's a waste of time. I will just let him revel in his ignorance. He enjoys it.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy