Ladies! There is Strength in Numbers. Especially when information needs to be shared. But at times those numbers are used to intimidate as well as harm.

I don't believe he has the MODS in his pocket (well except ztonk), he is just very good at pressing issues without actually breaking the written rules = pretty fucking intelligent.

Thank-you

Questions for whispers?

What brought on this personal vendetta?

I was asking questions of some of these guys that seemed to be on a vendetta against another member, accusing him of being a pimp, barebacking, fixing prices and attacking ladies.....

The guy is someone I consider a friend but I don't immediately choose to believe his side so I started asking questions, looking to see if there was any substance to their claims. I asked both here on the board as well as via email, texts and PMs and I received nothing that supported their claims. What I DID hear though were some stories about these guys and the two groups being overly assertive in what they want..... These claims that are here on ECCIE are echoed off the site as well by guys in the bareback forum that also seem to be OPEC members. I never brought any of this up as I asked simple questions here but all of a sudden they chose to begin labeling me as a PIMP and accused me of working with him to raise prices....

really.. the idea of ME working with someone to raice the price of pussy?.... I decided the guy was getting persecuted based on envy and jealousy so I jumped into the fray attacking what I believe the source of the problem to be.

Sometimes the best way to deal with a problem when you have a small group of extremely emotionally charged and irrational people that are a art of a larger group is to attack the group itself.... Maybe peer pressure from others would bring those guys in line.... No idea.... But it's a very recent topic in the news so I decided to take that approach.

Both of these groups go about getting what they want from ladies here in ways I don't necessarily think are right...


Because we all sure as shit know you could really care less for any of these whores, hooktards or other names you call them, even if you choose to call them ladies now.

I know many of them as individuals and consider a few to be friends and I do care about those I know as people. More than one of those seemed affected. In regards to their profession and their business... I try to stay out of all that.....

I just felt that in this particular case, with these two particular groups, there would be a few allies within the female side of the board interested in getting one or the other or both to come into line to some extent..


Since when did whispers become a white knight and a crusader for wayward hookers? I'm not..... but I believe that in this case what I wanted to accomplish was something that they would want to see done as well.. Hence the first line of this thread.....
Having a common adversary can create the strangest of allies.


What exactly is this info going to change on this board vs for your personal gain?

No personal gain other then standing up for a buddy I think is getting a raw deal..... well... I owed him a dinner and now he's probably buy me lunch..... for the board?.... I don't know...... Exposing a few that provide information about someone being cheaper or offering a service that they were forced into places their contribution in a different light.... I think....

If these so called OPEC guys are so forceful I am sure we would have heard from multiple ladies by now, with out your "intervention".

Ask around. I know you know a few ladies....I've spoke to a few that have heard but as to why don't we hear it hear on the board? My guess is a lot of it is embarrassing for some to admit.

If 1 OPEC or BB MEMBER did something improper, why not target that person, why exactly does it hang on the 4 men you have in your sig line?

Initially my questions were directed to each of them as individuals in different threads in different areas..... All I got in response were accusations that I contribute nothing , I'm a pimp, I'm trying to raise prices, etc....... In the past I've dealt with all the labeling that my buddy has as well..... I could not seem to get any of the ones stirring this pot to pay attention and support their attacks on my buddy... All they manage to do is twist, spin and call names....

A while back I had looked into both groups after being asked about them and pretty much came to the conclusion that both groups include some fairly regular posters here that do not necessarily advertise here that they are in those groups.... Once again... when a GROUP has a few radical outspoken members the GROUP can often get them to ratchet it down easier than anyone else..... Peer Pressure? Several of these rumors my buddy was dealing with that had been made into accusations seemed to originate on the barebacker forum.....

I belong to groups.... I have peers who have opinions I respect....... I occasionally have one or two of them reach out to me and say.... "Hey.... STFU.. your fucking with my game".... Since I respect them and their opinion I do....

I will admit I do not get in here often or read much of this BS. So if my questions are rhetorical, then please answer anyway. Originally Posted by cruzer

I've got the same questions from others..... Hopefully it makes a little sense....

So are all OPEC members trying-to-get-something-for-nothing-rapists? I am not sure "rapist" applies but certainly should be a hot discussion point.....

Or are there just a few bad apples?

Just asking. Originally Posted by Ebony Jasmine Love Austin

Just a few I think....

I believe the purpose behind OPEC to be a worthy cause beneficial to those involved.....

I believe the barebacker guys have a right to discuss and see out and share the information they do as well....

They just seemed to cross over into gossip and a few seemed to take from that gossip and use it to start a vendetta here..... A couple of the guys seemed to be stirring the pot and feeding the others.....

Oh ok!

Here is an example of what I suggest in this thread. The following names are fictional for the purpose here

prettyladyxxx sees jimbobbyluvsyou one evening.... he beats her up over pricing talking OPEC this and OPEC that and how much extra business she's going to get after he writes a review and reports back to OPEC.... she relents as she really is short on cash.... Into the session he insists on bareback and she says no.... he flips her over shoves her face into a pillow and pounds her from behind but on one of the strokes pulls out and strips the condom finishing balls deep and cums in her.... "oh.... must have slipped off cause your so tight..."

.... because that sounds like rape to me.

Thanks for answering.

Now can someone post the handle of the guy who is being accused of this so we can get to the point of all this back and forth?

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=455983

Ah, so we now know the chain of command. SL reports to Whispers. Not a surprise. Originally Posted by dante0322

Little slow on the up take..... NO?

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=455983 Originally Posted by dante0322

Ya went back almost 4 years to find out that Ztonk is a friend huh? At that time... me paying for a buddy to get laid by a stripper in a club was as expensive as it might be to have a bottle of Moscato at dinner.....

Ztonk being a buddy of mine has been well known for a long time considering he co-hosted a lot of parties with me...... But hey!.... Keep digging!.....

Ya went back almost 4 years to find out that Ztonk is a friend huh? At that time... me paying for a buddy to get laid by a stripper in a club was as expensive as it might be to have a bottle of Moscato at dinner.....

Ztonk being a buddy of mine has been well known for a long time considering he co-hosted a lot of parties with me...... But hey!.... Keep digging!..... Originally Posted by Whispers

And we all know that ANYONE that knows you must be corrupt..... right?

IMHO, OPEC is not a GROUP nor does it have MEMBERSHIP.
(It would need to have a structure). OPEC was a CONCEPT that a cluster of guys agreed with.

OPEC group/membership don't exist. No smoke screen here. If any Hobbyist chooses to force BB on a Provider. That solely rest with him.

Oh ok!


.... because that sounds like rape to me.

Thanks for answering.

Now can someone post the handle of the guy who is being accused of this so we can get to the point of all this back and forth? Originally Posted by Ebony Jasmine Love Austin

Because this IS RAPE and is very serious! A dude that shoves a ladies head into a pillow and then shoves his dick in bare without consideration of lifting the unwilling ladies head out of the pillow to ask if she even does BB? Hello some providers choose to offer BB most of us LADIES DO NOT

If this was my experience I would quickly and very seriously give the info necessary to the other providers ASAP so this doesn't happen to another lady!

If no handle or info is posted this whole co-ed alert is useless and not informative for hobbyist or providers, just a thread for drama or to make a statement of something I have no clue of!

With all due respect, Whispers, but why do you care? What is it to you that an OPEC member is trying to negotiate rates or if barebackers are trying to raw dog? What guy doesn't want to find a bargain or get his pinga wet w/o a cover? Shit! That sounds like every red blooded American male out there looking for some tush. You are only using the "ladies" as an excuse to come after some of the guys, and I quoted "ladies" since you usually call them whores.

I was and probably still am a member of OPEC. But I didn't join to bargain deals with the ladies. I joined to take a stand against the high price of pussy. I didn't want to pay X while identical pussy was at a lessor rate - it was my choice. But speaking of bargains, I've heard that you have the ability to take home a stripper and pay her the ECCIE standard rate for 3-4 hours of fun. That to me sounds like an OPEC principle. Perhaps you ought to join the group.

I don't think you are truly standing up for SL because some guy called him a Pimp or a barebacker or a member of the cheap bastards club; for as long as I've been a member of ECCIE your MO has been to stir the pot with shit and giggles and get a rise out of the ladies and the fellas. You're good at that, and I will admit it. I just don't understand why it is necessary to create so much drama when most of us want to do is get laid, talk about it, review it, swap stories, and move on to the next girl.

TONIGHT, WE ATTACK PARIS!!!!!

Ya went back almost 4 years to find out that Ztonk is a friend huh? At that time... me paying for a buddy to get laid by a stripper in a club was as expensive as it might be to have a bottle of Moscato at dinner.....

Ztonk being a buddy of mine has been well known for a long time considering he co-hosted a lot of parties with me...... But hey!.... Keep digging!..... Originally Posted by Whispers

What's a little bribery between friends, right?

TONIGHT, WE ATTACK PARIS!!!!!

Originally Posted by Little Monster

I'll be there!

So are all OPEC members trying-to-get-something-for-nothing-rapists?
Or are there just a few bad apples?

Just asking. Originally Posted by Ebony Jasmine Love Austin

Oh ok!


.... because that sounds like rape to me.

Thanks for answering.

Now can someone post the handle of the guy who is being accused of this so we can get to the point of all this back and forth? Originally Posted by Ebony Jasmine Love Austin

Posting a "question" is also making a statement. That's never really worked for you... has it?

With all due respect, Whispers, why do you care? You are only using the "ladies" as an excuse to come after some of the guys, and I quoted "ladies" since you usually call them whores.

I've heard that you have the ability to take home a stripper and pay her the ECCIE standard rate for 3-4 hours of fun. That to me sounds like an OPEC principle. Perhaps you ought to join the group.

for as long as I've been a member of ECCIE your MO has been to stir the pot with shit and giggles and get a rise out of the ladies and the fellas. You're good at that, and I will admit it. I just don't understand why it is necessary to create so much drama when most of us want to do is get laid, talk about it, review it, swap stories, and move on to the next girl. Originally Posted by illuminati

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