The truth (Relax2013)

The only facts I know are they ones that have been verified and they all point to the fact that you are shady David. These are things you have admitted to after they were discovered.

You have been caught with multiple handles...fact.

You have been caught trying to sneak into relax after you were banned...fact.

You are also chatty and whinny...fact.

And yes a join date is the date you joined...who would have figured. Originally Posted by dallasfan

Do you know how to stay on topic, dallasfan?

Are they really facts, let's see the fact (provide links) that you know these facts, or are you going by second hand info at best? Your third "fact" is your opinion, not an actual fact and the second "fact" is obviously what you were told by Kendra, (untrue by the way) not that you would actually know anything about my visits there anyway and the first "fact" has nothing to do with Relax or this thread, and I would venture to say that many members have had multiple handles, as well as the guy you WK for, he has at least 3 or 4 current handles, so if you want to play that card, then play fair cuz playing with blinders only makes you look bad. BTW, since you have such a strong opinion of how great Relax is and how anyone that thinks less is a troll, Mr. Relax WK, what is your opinion of this revelation that Kendra through out in post 1 of this thread?

Are you finished editing your post? That is another shady thing you like to do.

You really wake up in a different world everyday don't you.

You are not debating that you had/have multiple handles...so no proof necessary there. It's against the rules to have multiple handles at the same time. It's especially shady when you use your multiple handles in the same thread.

As for sneaking into relax after you were banned, this is what you posted...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1057563285

Now to give some background on this....relax had two studios back then...one in ftw and one in dallas.

He was banned from one of the studios under the username of Nearhautered. Then another customers...not the studio tells him he is unbanned. What? He then doesn't return to the same studio but goes to the to the other studio in the other city and sneaks in under the bigdog username. He was banned again under the other handle. Both IDs were eventually banned by eccie...one permanently. He has a different ID today as you can see and has been linked to another 3-4 that we know of....we can only speculate on how many others he has.

I guess the chatty and whinny part is an opinion. I guess everyone can decide that on their own by looking at your previous post.

Just as I thought, you are not going to stay on topic in this thread. All you want to do is rehash the past so I will play with you some. I have always used the same name, as it is difficult to use different names when you are the same person, I should know, I was there each time, were you? You have no idea what you are talking about!

All you give as facts is what you have heard from a bitch that I did not want to go by her rules of only reviewing the good sessions, not even talking about the bad sessions and I griped to Kendra about having to wait in the room 15+ minutes for the girl to come back after she led me to the room.

OP with a rather recent join date and little history to go by, not to mention you're not a verified provider, this story is up for the membership to decide.

dallasfan you might want to find another thread to visit otherwise the subject of discussion here is what post 1 posted not how many handles david's had....so lets not hijack this discussion.

Crickets . . .

Crickets . . . Originally Posted by Halfbad

Once a mod posts on a thread in coed about the posters staying on topic, the posters who wanted to start a pissing match usually quit posting on it.

On topic, I would like to see the opinions of the frequent clients of Relax and what their take is on the Kendra revelation. When you have a not so good time and choose to review it, are you next for the PI to follow and Relax sends care packages to their families? I know there are providers who left Relax and and indys now, I would also like to see their thoughts, or perhaps they better not because of the Relax owner and his "connections"? poker anyone? (pun intended)

Damn, I take some time away from the board, and shit hits the fuckin fan! This shit here is some young and the restless kinda shit. Haaaaaaaaaaa

The only facts I know are they ones that have been verified and they all point to the fact that you are shady David. These are things you have admitted to after they were discovered.

You have been caught with multiple handles...fact.

You have been caught trying to sneak into relax after you were banned...fact.

You are also chatty and whinny...fact.

And yes a join date is the date you joined...who would have figured. Originally Posted by dallasfan

I thought this topic was about the OP? What does the fact that David might have had multiple handles have to do with Relax2013 devious and dangerous tactics that can cause a threat to the community? You are a real douchebag!

Always escaped me during my time in the hobby why guys go to these places. There are many providers just as convenient and I'm not worried about all this BS drama. Support independents!

Crazy shit

I thought this topic was about the OP? What does the fact that David might have had multiple handles have to do with Relax2013 devious and dangerous tactics that can cause a threat to the community? You are a real douchebag! Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

Exactly now go read post 124 and not try to get anymore shots after I've issued my general reminder and warning...

I've been following all the posts about the OP and digs against each other trying to stay out of it, but at the risk of sounding naive, I'd like to know why anybody would visit a place run by ppl that would do something so cruel and just plain mean hearted to these women. I can tell you that the OP knows what she's talking about if she isn't really Kendra b/c one of those scenarios she detailed happened to me and my biz. I am a mom that has spent years raising my babies and giving them the best life I can while not racking up any bad karma. I don't have one bad review on here or anywhere. If one of my girls stole from me, I was happy to let her have it b/c if she needed it that bad then she needed it more than I did. If a client was unhappy w/ his service I gave him a discount next time. I have never bad mouthed anyone that left me or harassed clients even when they were total idiots. Then one day I hire a girl from Relax and OOOO damn all hell breaks loose. I didn't steal her or do anything that might hurt Relax...I mean truth be told I don't ask my girls to do anything they don't want to do. That's why she came to me. That studio makes their girls do certain things for a donation that I wouldn't be caught dead taking, but hey they get steady and fairly safe biz which is a plus as well. Live and let live as far as I'm concerned.

Back to the point...the Hobby is supposed to be a fun thing and most of us are upstanding ppl that do this to make our lives easier. We aren't out to hurt anyone. I feel like everyone should be worried about the safety of their info, but they should also be appalled that these ppl deliberately set out to destroy so many woman for no real reason. If you can't stay away from there for your safety, then stay away as a sign to them that you aren't going to frequent a place that could blow up someone's life and have their kids taken away just b/c they can't stand to see their ladies working someplace else. We come together as a community when a tornado hits or any kind of disaster. This disaster hit this online community. It could have been any one of you ladies out there that this happened to. They could decide next time to target blondes or all brunettes.....Ok...I'm ready..lol Let the snarky remarks begin.

Thanks for your input, massagegirl. I will bet that there are many more ladies who have been a victim of a family/SO care package and/or LE called on their businesses by Relax2013, and I assure you, they are not done yet. It may take a many of their clients who stand by them thick or thin, that possibly when they put up a less than glorious/negative review or have a disagreement, and Relax outs them or worse, before they stop going and raving about Relax, but by then, it will be too late.

I do find it funny that not even one of the Relax2013 clients, especially the WKs, commented thus far, at least, on the thread subject. Kinda makes you wonder if maybe some were in on it as there is no way all the shit that was done to people/businesses was accomplished by just one individual. Or maybe they know better than to say anything about the matter or face consequences as Relax2013 obvious saves personal info to use against someone for later if they feel they need to.

OK, so it seems clear that relax goes after ladies that worked there when they leave, but do they only care if they go to a competitor? Isn't there an ex-Relax lady in W&I right now? Does she have to worry about getting outed? Or does Relax continue as management?

OK, so it seems clear that relax goes after ladies that worked there when they leave, but do they only care if they go to a competitor? Isn't there an ex-Relax lady in W&I right now? Does she have to worry about getting outed? Or does Relax continue as management? Originally Posted by LongDejaVo

I think Relax cares when a girl leaves and tries to provide on her own, not just go to a competitor. Many girls have been shut down to try leaving and starting anew as an indy or with another studio by threats and even those threats being carried out when the girls did not heed the warnings.

Still, I am curious to read what their current clients have to say about all this, and even the WKs who have an opinion on everything Relax2013 related, but not on the subject of this thread. Kinda makes me wonder if a gag order or else is in effect.