Charlie Kirk shot, another conservative assassination attempt.

I'm just parsing your words like Charlie Kirk would have. No need to get hostile when someone probes about an implied all because you left out the clarifying words while tossing a partisan smear while also trying to redefine what present means Originally Posted by HDGristle

Enlighten me. Why would one vote present instead of yes or no?

Present = my actual position is so retarded that it can’t be said out loud without consequences at the ballot box.

Enlighten me. Why would one vote present instead of yes or no? Originally Posted by Iceman

There are a plethora of reasons one might vote present. Oldman and J only focus on two.

Taking a stand for neutrality is one. Not caring is another. Allowing for a quorum while not increasing hurdles needed to pass is another. Voting without disrespecting the will of the majority of one's constituents is another. Plenty more.

There's a long history of present votes. It's part of the process.

https://www.congressionalinstitute.o...ness%20legally.

There are a plethora of reasons one might vote present. Oldman and J only focus on two.

Taking a stand for neutrality is one. Not caring is another. Allowing for a quorum while not increasing hurdles needed to pass is another. Voting without disrespecting the will of the majority of one's constituents is another. Plenty more.

There's a long history of present votes. It's part of the process.

https://www.congressionalinstitute.o...ness%20legally. Originally Posted by HDGristle

for some additional flavor: example from 2013..


House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer urged his party to vote “present” because it “takes Democrats out of the equation so the American people can see just how extreme the Republican conference truly is”. Democrats contend that the Study Committee budget is extreme because it balances the budget four years from now (rather than a decade or longer), while sharply reducing entitlement benefits. Of course, this was the talking point. The real reason was to embarrass the Republicans.

Both Parties have done so - to make a point, or to keep quorum minimums.

Accurate

Love this one.

Voting without disrespecting the will of the majority of one's constituents Originally Posted by HDGristle

AKA

my actual position is so retarded that it can’t be said out loud without consequences at the ballot box

The notion that the position has to be retarded is a myopic, overly narrow construct of yours... not the situation.

Mine covers yours AND other possibile outcomes

Originally Posted by Devo

... Blimey! ... The bloke in yer photo aint the shooter.
And he ain't a member of ANTIFA.

He's obviously a member of AFLAC --- ...

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