Eric Holder: Gun Owners Should 'Cower' in Shame Like Smokers

This thread is totally dishonest. Originally Posted by TPJR

Welcome to the Sandbox.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you over the head like a train.

He never said that. Originally Posted by essence

As long as you have been on here you should realize that there are people who don't let little things like facts, logic, or truth stand in their way.

Welcome to the Sandbox. Originally Posted by essence

Apparently he thinks you're dishonest too.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you over the head like a train.

He never said that.

He said smokers cowered, see 00:57.

He never said gun owners should cower.

He continued at 1:00 'and that is what I think we need to do with guns'.

Now, this is interesting - the continuation at 1:00 does not make sense, he is not talking about gun owners but guns, so what is he talking about?

Now, note carefully dipshits and dipshitesses, there is an edit at 1:00, clearly a deliberate edit to bias the video. There is a bit missing, and this pernicious edit is just the kind of thing which the malicious media use to influence the idiots and dumbos.

The media edit has clearly fooled most of you here.

Anybody man or woman enough to admit they have been fooled by the edit?

I analysed this a bit just to make a point about how gullible people can be, probablyu a similar analysis would dismiss most of the other dumbo so-called quotes which are used. Originally Posted by essence

This is an exact quote from the video: "Now we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don't want to admit it, and that's what I think we need to do with guns."

You say he didn't say that gun owners should cower. That's exactly what he said. You're being intellectually dishonest. You pretend that he didn't say what he clearly said. If you can't play fair, don't play.

This is an exact quote from the video: "Now we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don't want to admit it, and that's what I think we need to do with guns."

You say he didn't say that gun owners should cower. That's exactly what he said. You're being intellectually dishonest. You pretend that he didn't say what he clearly said. If you can't play fair, don't play. Originally Posted by joe bloe

It's true that he did say that. However, the context of the quote makes it clear that he's talking about discouraging young people from thinking that walking around with guns makes them cool. It's not about taking guns away from people, or demonizing gun owners, similar to how the anti-smoking lobbying was not about outlawing smoking or demonizing smokers.

It's true that he did say that. However, the context of the quote makes it clear that he's talking about discouraging young people from thinking that walking around with guns makes them cool. It's not about taking guns away from people, or demonizing gun owners, similar to how the anti-smoking lobbying was not about outlawing smoking or demonizing smokers. Originally Posted by TPJR

When you consider the content of the video in the context of Holder's prior actions and statements concerning gun control, it's consistant with someone who wants to aggressively disarm American citizens. Holder wants to stigmatize gun owners as some sort of pariahs. He wants to make gun owners the moral equivalent of child molestors.

Fast and Furious was designed as a propaganda device intended to create a crisis that could be exploited to enact stricter gun laws. Holder perjured himself in order to cover up the true nature of the program and was held in contempt of Congress. Obama illegally exercised executive privilege to cover up his involvement in Fast and Furious. They should both go to jail.

The video is useful because it shows a pattern of behavior.

Obama can do no wrong, right, Timmy? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Every single thing that goes wrong in the United States is Obama's fault, right COG?

This is an exact quote from the video: "Now we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don't want to admit it, and that's what I think we need to do with guns."
. Originally Posted by joe bloe

God almight, even when I take great pains to explain why and how and when you are a lying bastard, you still continue to lie.

No he did not say it. It is not an exact quote.

Liar liar pants on fire.

If you want to quote properly, then it goes something like this:

we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don't want to admit it,
'
'
a break in the video, this bit has been edited out
'
'
and then it starts again with:


and that's what I think we need to do with guns


For the mother of mercy, or whatever you want me to say, please please please don;t continue saying blatant lies, it demeans you and this forum (if that is possible).

Do you have any idea how bad the edit is? What nonsense the edit makes of the quote? The misquote is nonsensical, is he expecting guns to cower? What is it he thinks we need to do with guns?

Watch the video again at 1:00, and own up and apologise for being dumbasses who not only are unable to read, but are unable to watch or listen. Are you blind or something? Can;t you see the flicker of the edit at 1:00?

TPJR, you are almost as bad, he did not say it, I have already explained this.

It's like trying to explain velocity and acceleration to primary school children.

God almight, even when I take great pains to explain why and how and when you are a lying bastard, you still continue to lie.

No he did not say it. It is not an exact quote.

Liar liar pants on fire.

If you want to quote properly, then it goes something like this:

we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don't want to admit it,
'
'
a break in the video, this bit has been edited out
'
'
and then it starts again with:


and that's what I think we need to do with guns


For the mother of mercy, or whatever you want me to say, please please please don;t continue saying blatant lies, it demeans you and this forum (if that is possible).

Do you have any idea how bad the edit is? What nonsense the edit makes of the quote? The misquote is nonsensical, is he expecting guns to cower? What is it he thinks we need to do with guns?

Watch the video again at 1:00, and own up and apologise for being dumbasses who not only are unable to read, but are unable to watch or listen. Are you blind or something? Can;t you see the flicker of the edit at 1:00?

TPJR, you are almost as bad, he did not say it, I have already explained this.

It's like trying to explain velocity and acceleration to primary school children. Originally Posted by essence

You're delusional. I think you're experiencing some sort of psychotic break. Seek help. I understand Olanzapine combined with a few rounds of ECT can be useful.

You're delusional. I think you're experiencing some sort of psychotic break. Seek help. I understand Olanzapine combined with a few rounds of ECT can be useful. Originally Posted by joe bloe

Did it help you? Doesn't seem like it.

You're delusional. I think you're experiencing some sort of psychotic break. Seek help. I understand Olanzapine combined with a few rounds of ECT can be useful. Originally Posted by joe bloe

Have you found my deliberate mistake, same as I found your deliberate mistake?

God almight, even when I take great pains to explain why and how and when you are a lying bastard, you still continue to lie.

No he did not say it. It is not an exact quote.

Liar liar pants on fire.

If you want to quote properly, then it goes something like this:

we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don't want to admit it,
'
'
a break in the video, this bit has been edited out
'
'
and then it starts again with:


and that's what I think we need to do with guns


For the mother of mercy, or whatever you want me to say, please please please don;t continue saying blatant lies, it demeans you and this forum (if that is possible).

Do you have any idea how bad the edit is? What nonsense the edit makes of the quote? The misquote is nonsensical, is he expecting guns to cower? What is it he thinks we need to do with guns?

Watch the video again at 1:00, and own up and apologise for being dumbasses who not only are unable to read, but are unable to watch or listen. Are you blind or something? Can;t you see the flicker of the edit at 1:00?

TPJR, you are almost as bad, he did not say it, I have already explained this.

It's like trying to explain velocity and acceleration to primary school children. Originally Posted by essence

There's no break in the video. If you look in the lower right corner of the video, you can see the time counting up. If there were a break, you would see the clock jump forward.

When you consider the content of the video in the context of Holder's prior actions and statements concerning gun control, it's consistant with someone who wants to aggressively disarm American citizens. Holder wants to stigmatize gun owners as some sort of pariahs. He wants to make gun owners the moral equivalent of child molestors.

Fast and Furious was designed as a propaganda device intended to create a crisis that could be exploited to enact stricter gun laws. Holder perjured himself in order to cover up the true nature of the program and was held in contempt of Congress. Obama illegally exercised executive privilege to cover up his involvement in Fast and Furious. They should both go to jail.

The video is useful because it shows a pattern of behavior. Originally Posted by joe bloe

There is not, nor has there ever been a large scale attempt by the government to disarm Americans. There is also no evidence whatsoever that Fast and Furious was some secret attempt to enact stricter gun control laws. The Democrats are such huge pussies on gun control that it's taken 26 people, including 20 kids, getting shot to death just to get them to even discuss gun control openly.

Have you found my deliberate mistake, same as I found your deliberate mistake? Originally Posted by essence

I didn't make any mistakes, deliberate or otherwise.

obamacare? Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

With all due respect, The Supreme Court has the final say on that, and they said it was Constitutional.