Sandra Bland, what really happened?

i'ma dinanuffins is whining again...

another demonstration of Eva's stupidity Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

You really have a terminal case of the dumb ass, no stones the hillbilly. Best to put your dumb ass on ignore as you never have anything pertaining to the OP. How come you aren't at the special Olympics?

Warning tickets require no signature.

I am sure you can clear this up for me. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Warning Ticket ... Texas Department of Public Safety



Do you see the little line immediately below the printed words ...

"SIGNATURE" Originally Posted by LexusLover

another demonstration of Eva's stupidity Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

a terminal case of the dumb ass, Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Yes YOU ARE, IVA-KNOW-NOTHING.

Let me repeat your bullshit ....

Warning tickets require no signature.. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Yes YOU ARE, IVA-KNOW-NOTHING.

Let me repeat your bullshit .... Originally Posted by LexusLover

Asshole Bland------

"A DPS state trooper has a obligation to exhibit professionalism and be courteous throughout the entire contact,and that was not the case here"
Steven McCraw Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Read the last part and go fuck yourself lexie lacking. You have no remorse for a dead woman, and will defend a ego driven officer who was on the force a little over a year. Do you sign parking tickets? Red light camera tickets? No signature is required on any ticket, but the officers. It is a legal document.

driving while black, simple as that.

driving while black, simple as that. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Obviously. I am white and I can do whatever I want in front of cops. As soon as they see I am white they just smile and wave and go back to the hunt.

Obviously. I am white and I can do whatever I want in front of cops. As soon as they see I am white they just smile and wave and go back to the hunt. Originally Posted by brianjackson

Is that what I said? However, if you honestly think that being white doesn't provide an advantage when dealing with the cops, you just aren't being honest with yourself.

You, like many, fail on two levels: You focus on one element of the contact, and base your conclusion on one personal experience of your own.

Rewind the "tape" to the beginning of the contact, and evaluate the events.

Some where out there in internet land you can find "factors" considered by patrol officers when evaluating a driver's ability to drive and/or whether or not their are impaired ....

1. Bland passes the trooper who is on a traffic stop.
2. He is behind her some distance after the stop.
3. She changes lanes without a signal into his lane with him behind her.
4. He pulls her over.
5. He casually and politely asks her for her DL and about where she is going.
6. He was on the passenger side.
7. He returns to present her with a WARNING TICKET to sign.
8. She was "irritated" and began to question him about stopping her.
9. She starts up with the cigarette and he asks her to put it out.
10. Up to that point the trooper engaged in no negative activities.
11. She did, when all she had to do was keep her mouth shut and sign.
As was reported she was "intoxicated" on a prohibited substance.
12. Belligerence was her response.
13. She was still being detained.
14. He asked her to step out of the vehicle, which he can do lawfully.
15. She refused.
16. After several orders to exit, he reached in after telling her he would.
17. She slapped him while she was sitting in the car.
18. ........End of story. She goes to jail.

Now you might want to explain why an officer had you on the side of the road for 2 hours? Or would you rather not? You failed to mention what State you were in when an officer asked you to recite the President's backwards for a "field sobriety test" ...... I take it you didn't hit the officer during your stop. Originally Posted by LexusLover

I don't have a problem at all. I was in Missouri about 15 years ago. I was 2 miles from my childhood home and it was about 2 AM to 4 AM that this all occurred. I had been working in a shipyard (yeah, I always worked for the government like the idiots say) and had long hair to my collar and a full beard. I worked the night shift usually and was "up" at 2 AM. I decided to go into St. Joseph to see what was going on at that time. Why he decided to pull me over is his secret...anyway we went through the preliminaries; where are you going? to town where did you come from? from my parents place about two miles away, I'm visiting aren't you up kind of late? i'm usually awake at this hour, I work third shift Have you been drinking? I don't drink Would you mind getting out of your car? (gets out) I'm going to issue a field sobriety test. Fine, I don't drink. We do all sorts of tests which I pass. Do you have any contraband in your car? No Can I search your car? no... Why not? because I don't want you to Why not? because you stopped me for no reason and I'm not giving permission for a search Walks around the car with his flashlight. Let me search your car? No Why not? because I'm feeling a bit like an asshole What do you have in your car? Nothing, except what you see Then why can't I search your car? I don't want you to..... this goes on for about two hours until...I can get a warrant and a dog out here. fine, wake up a judge at 4 AM on a Sunday morning, I'll wait.....I'm going to let you go THIS TIME but I will watching you. Have a nice night officer.

I don't have a problem at all. I was in Missouri about 15 years ago. I was 2 miles from my childhood home and it was about 2 AM to 4 AM that this all occurred. I had been working in a shipyard (yeah, I always worked for the government like the idiots say) and had long hair to my collar and a full beard. I worked the night shift usually and was "up" at 2 AM. I decided to go into St. Joseph to see what was going on at that time. Why he decided to pull me over is his secret...anyway we went through the preliminaries; where are you going? to town where did you come from? from my parents place about two miles away, I'm visiting aren't you up kind of late? i'm usually awake at this hour, I work third shift Have you been drinking? I don't drink Would you mind getting out of your car? (gets out) I'm going to issue a field sobriety test. Fine, I don't drink. We do all sorts of tests which I pass. Do you have any contraband in your car? No Can I search your car? no... Why not? because I don't want you to Why not? because you stopped me for no reason and I'm not giving permission for a search Walks around the car with his flashlight. Let me search your car? No Why not? because I'm feeling a bit like an asshole What do you have in your car? Nothing, except what you see Then why can't I search your car? I don't want you to..... this goes on for about two hours until...I can get a warrant and a dog out here. fine, wake up a judge at 4 AM on a Sunday morning, I'll wait.....I'm going to let you go THIS TIME but I will watching you. Have a nice night officer. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Did you file a report on the officer? Did he have a dashcam? I would have.

About 15 years ago a HPD officer stopped me for speeding. 45 MPH in a 35 he claimed. No way I said. Had both my kids in the car on the way to school. I asked to see the radar detector display. He said no. He fucked up when writing the ticket. Wrong court, wrong date. Judge didn't care. Went down to his police station and filed a report. Nothing happened but it made me feel better. The cop was black.

Causing someone to make a lane change without a blinker on was a bogus reason, he just wanted to fuck with someone with a out of state license plate. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

FTFY.

I was pulled over for not using a turn signal coming out of a parking lot several months ago. Originally Posted by Budman

You just "forgot," no more, no less, didn't you?

"......the chain of events started with the officer failing to contain the situation."

Wrong. The "chain of events" started when the officer violated a traffic law. Originally Posted by LexusLover

FTFY.

Yep and the video looks like he made an illegal u-turn in the middle of a intersection to race up behind her. Before she even broke any law Originally Posted by slingblade

FTFY.

The cop was an overzealous turd. Did she have an attitude? Yes, but cops are taught not to escalate a situation. Originally Posted by WombRaider

"Overzealous" for what? Responding to an emegency call, investigating a crime scene, or pursuing a fleeing felon?

I don't have enough information to decide if he was overzealous and neither do you. One thing I do know is he got someone off the road who was not in condition to drive. She was higher then shit. Did he sense she wasn't in condition to drive? Neither you or I know. Did she blow smoke in his face on purpose which prompted him to tell her to put out the cig and then when she didn't do that then prompted here to take care of the ticket business out side of the car? Neither you or I know.

The anti cop anti authority bullshit that is going on in this country is out of control, that I do know. Originally Posted by brianjackson

One thing I do know is that he made a u-turn, raced up after Ms. Bland, creating the illusion that he's responding to an emergency call. In her hurried state to get out of the way, she failed to signal as a result. In reality this cop is the one who has endangered the "public safety" of Ms. Bland and other motorists with his reckless driving at excessive rate of speed. Just wondering if his brakes ever fail on him this one time....

And this tactic is well known as "zoom stop"....